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Christian Science does not agree with the theory that morals grow out of people’s behavior. It stands firmly on the ground that morals for mankind are derived from the divine Mind, God, and that they are therefore ageless. Morally right behavior pertaining to sex was revealed by Moses.

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    When they do the healing can they at least start with the priests that are fucking young boys?

    You know, because Moses said or whatever the fuck.

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      There is nothing that cannot be cured.
      When the cure comes from God, it is called miracle.
      Look up Padre Pio. It hasn’t been that long since his death.

      If you really want to be cured, let me know.

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        Padre Pio was one of the biggest scammer southern Italy was ever plagued by and he did more damages to this land than any of the mafia family living there has ever done.

        I’m glad he died the horrible way he did and I hope he is now rotting in a metaphorical hell where he belong.

        Source: I’m an Italian who has seen the mental and social damages caused by this fucker

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          youre literally arguing with a flat earther, check their username and post history. you arent going to reason someone out of a position they didnt reason themselves into.

          dudes just detached from reality.

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            I know but still sometimes I cannot let go and I have to follow for a couple of days these kind of people just to remind them they are no longer in touch with this world, hoping that this will prevent them by spreading their nonsensical reasoning in real life by giving them a good dose of preemptive shame.

            A long shot, I know, but a man has to indulge in some vices from time to time ;)

            Have a great holiday season my dude <3

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          Saints don’t fear death.
          Padre Pio bore the wounds of Christ on himself (Just like St. Francis of Assisi).
          Wounds of Christ = great suffering.
          He gave sight to the blind, healed many spiritually too.

          Don’t throw words into the air. What is your accusation against him?
          Others are Italians too.
          Mental and Social damage like LGBTQ+?

          Padre Pio did not invent Medical Microscope.
          That is not his job.

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        No thanks, I’m not going to sit around waiting for some “miracle” to change something I actually quite love about myself.

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          Food is sweet, but not every substance is to be taken (poison, your 12-year old boy).
          Eyeglasses to the eye, and knives to vegetables (things have purpose).
          Syphilis is rightly a disorder, so is marriage with a boiling pot (dis + order).

          Some people are bully, and they love that about themselves.
          Your youthfulness will still fade,
          You’ll grow old and will need another’s help.
          You’ll die one day, and after death comes judgement.
          If you love yourself, choose one suffering.
          Suffering twice is: in this world and after judgement in hell.
          A wise person will choose to suffer once.

          We have to give God thanks for everything, even if not by miracle (by practice).

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            I’ll take the change for judgement - getting fucked in the ass by something else then the government feels great

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              I am talking about Christianity.
              Government is people (president, vice, ministers, senators).
              They too eat and go to toilet.
              You shouldn’t fear them (but you must not commit crime/killings).

              Drones and robots are man-made.
              Just like bombs, gun etc.
              If they kill people, know that man/evil government… (pressed the KILL button).

              Every man/government will be judged by God.

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            You will grow old and need another’s help.

            And what business is it of yours if that other is the same gender as me?

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              I went on to another topic.
              Rebellious question.

              If you are speaking of chores, there is nothing wrong with chores.
              You can cook with a pot. Use a pot for cooking and not for marriage.

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                I moved on to another topic.

                It sounded like you were talking about the same thing to me. Besides, why is that relevant? Moving on to another topic doesn’t mean you don’t have to answer questions about the previous one.

                Rebellious question.

                Is that an insult where you come from? Because it’s a compliment around here. You’re a stranger on the internet, not my dad. Why should I look up to you?

                Besides, even if you were my dad, I was raised to question my parents and make my own decisions once I was old enough to understand. We ask questions to arrive at the truth, not to more accurately ascertain the will of whoever has the most authority.

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    The healing of homosexuality—and many such cases have been genuinely healed

    Citation needed.

    P. S. A list by a kindly person long ago in red place of things forbidden by the old testament ( with biblical citation!):

    Eating rabbits, pigs, or camels.
    

    Leviticus 11:4 “Nevertheless these shall ye not eat of them that chew the cud, or of them that divide the hoof: as the camel, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.”

    No shellfish, clams, oysters, urchins, or lobsters.
    

    Leviticus 11:10 “And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you.”

    No eating cats, dogs, and ferrets
    

    Leviticus 11:27 “And whatsoever goeth upon his paws, among all manner of beasts that go on all four, those are unclean unto you: whoso toucheth their carcase shall be unclean until the even.”

    No eating snails, moles, weasels, mice, rats, bats, bugs, insects, worms, spiders, roaches, etc.
    

    Leviticus 11:28–29 “These also shall be unclean unto you among the creeping things that creep upon the earth; the weasel, and the mouse, and the tortoise after his kind, and the ferret, and the chameleon, and the lizard, and the snail, and the mole.”

    Don't eat fat or blood
    

    Leviticus 3:17 “It shall be a perpetual statute for your generations throughout all your dwellings, that ye eat neither fat nor blood"

    You cannot eat certain birds.
    

    Leviticus 11:13–20 “These are they which ye shall have in abomination among the fowls; they shall not be eaten, they are an abomination: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the osprey, and the vulture, and the kite after his kind; every raven after his kind; and the owl, and the night hawk, and the cuckow, and the hawk after his kind, and the little owl, and the cormorant, and the great owl, and the swan, and the pelican, and the gier eagle, and the stork, the heron after her kind, and the lapwing, and the bat. All fowls that creep, going upon all four, shall be an abomination unto you.”

    If you wear ripped jeans, you're going to burn.
    

    Leviticus 10:6 “Uncover not your heads, neither rend your clothes; lest ye die, and lest wrath come upon all the people.”

    Oh, yeah. You also can't wear mixed cloth, bitch.
    

    Leviticus 19:19 “Neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woollen come upon thee.”

    No short haircuts
    

    Leviticus 19:27 “Ye shall not round the corners of your heads.”

    Beard required
    

    Leviticus 19:27 “Neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard.”

    That tat of a cross isn't getting you extra credit, Johnny.
    

    Leviticus 19:28 “Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the Lord.”

    Don't put two seeds in the same crop, 'cause it's an abomination...for some reason.
    

    Leviticus 19:19 “Thou shalt not sow thy field with mingled seed.”

    That mixed-breed dog you have? Yeah...that'll grant you a one way ticket to hell, too.
    

    Leviticus 19:19 “Thou shalt not let thy cattle gender with a diverse kind.”

    No grudge-holding!
    

    Leviticus 19:18 “Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people.”

    Touch a dirty puppy? BURN!
    

    Leviticus 5:2 “If a soul touch any unclean thing, whether it be a carcase of an unclean beast, or a carcase of unclean cattle, or the carcase of unclean creeping things, and if it be hidden from him; he also shall be unclean, and guilty.”

    Wait...so less church is good?
    

    Leviticus 12:4–5 “And she shall then continue in the blood of her purifying three and thirty days; she shall touch no hallowed thing, nor come into the sanctuary, until the days of her purifying be fulfilled. But if she bear a maid child, then she shall be unclean two weeks, as in her separation: and she shall continue in the blood of her purifying threescore and six days.”

    No alcohol in church (people probably don't do this anyw- oh wait)
    

    Leviticus 10:9 “Do not drink wine nor strong drink, thou, nor thy sons with thee, when ye go into the tabernacle of the congregation, lest ye die.”

    No manual labor on Saturdays.
    

    Leviticus 23:3 “Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the Lord in all your dwellings.”

    No going to church after birth.
    

    Leviticus 12:2 “Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a woman have conceived seed, and born a man child: then she shall be unclean seven days; according to the days of the separation for her infirmity shall she be unclean.”

    No tarrot cards
    

    Leviticus 19:31 “Do not turn to mediums or spiritists…”

    Pull out=die
    

    Genesis 38:9-10 “Onan knew that the offspring would not be his; so when he went in to his brother’s wife, he wasted his seed on the ground in order not to give offspring to his brother. But what he did was displeasing in the sight of the Lord; so He took his life also.”

    No divorce
    

    Mark 10:9 “What therefore God has joined together, let no man separate.”

    No balls=No gawd
    

    Deuteronomy 23:1 “A man whose testicles are crushed or whose penis is cut off may never join the assembly of the Lord.”

    No jewelry
    

    Timothy 2:9 “Likewise, I want women to adorn themselves with proper clothing, modestly and discreetly, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly garments.”

    If someone's attacking you, you can't grab your attacker's privates.
    

    Deuteronomy 25:11-25:12 “If two men, a man and his countryman, are struggling together, and the wife of one comes near to deliver her husband from the hand of the one who is striking him, and puts out her hand and seizes his genitals, then you shall cut off her hand; you shall not show pity.”

    Don't fuck your wife's mom
    

    Leviticus 20:14 “'If a man marries both a woman and her mother, it is wicked. Both he and they must be burned in the fire, so that no wickedness will be among you.”

    Don't go to church if you're Asian.
    

    Leviticus 21:17 “Say to Aaron: ‘For the generations to come none of your descendants who has a defect may come near to offer the food of his God. 18 No man who has any defect may come near: no man who is blind or lame, disfigured or deformed; nor his nose or eyes be flat."

    Kill anyone with a different religion than Christianity
    

    Deuteronomy 17:2-17:7

    “If there is found in your midst, in any of your [a]towns, which the Lord your God is giving you, a man or a woman who does what is evil in the sight of the Lord your God, by transgressing His covenant, 3 and has gone and served other gods and worshiped them, or the sun or the moon or any of the heavenly host, which I have not commanded, 4 and if it is told you and you have heard of it, then you shall inquire thoroughly. Behold, if it is true and the thing certain that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, 5 then you shall bring out that man or that woman who has done this evil deed to your gates, that is, the man or the woman, and you shall stone them to [b]death. 6 On the [c]evidence of two witnesses or three witnesses, he who is to die shall be put to death; he shall not be put to death on the [d]evidence of one witness. 7 The hand of the witnesses shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterward the hand of all the people. So you shall purge the evil from your midst."
    
    Don't say "Fuck you, mom!" Even if you're a rebellious teen.
    

    “Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death. Because they have cursed their father or mother, their blood will be on their own head.”

    If you've ever cheated on someone, you're going to Hell.
    

    Leviticus 20:10 “If a man commits adultery with his neighbor’s wife, both the man and the woman who have committed adultery must be put to death.”

    If a man has sex with a woman on her period, they are both to be "cut off from their community"
    

    “If a man has sexual relations with a woman during her menstrual period, both of them must be cut off from the community, for together they have exposed the source of her blood flow.”

    Picking up grapes that have fallen in your vineyard
    

    Leviticus 19:10 “Do not go over your vineyard a second time or pick up the grapes that have fallen. Leave them for the poor and the foreigner. I am the Lord your God.”

    God hates honey.
    

    Leviticus 2:11 “Do not use yeast in preparing any of the grain offerings you present to the LORD, because no yeast or honey may be burned as a special gift presented to the LORD.”

    Buying a house.
    

    Leviticus 25:23 “The land must never be sold on a permanent basis, for the land belongs to me. You are only foreigners and tenant farmers working for me.”

    Mistreating foreigners
    

    Leviticus 19:33-19:34 “the foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born”

    Stand when you talk to grandpa.
    

    Leviticus 19:32 “Stand up in the presence of the elderly, and show respect for the aged. Fear your God. I am the LORD”

    Lying
    

    Leviticus 19:11 "Do not steal. “Do not deceive or cheat one another.”

    Cheating
    

    Leviticus 19:11 "Do not steal. “Do not deceive or cheat one another.”

    Funny how so many Christians nowadays say homosexuality is an abomination, when they are committing abominations themselves when they say this.

    I’m a straight supporter of the LGBT community, and I’m proud of it. Are you, too?

    Bonus! The raped person must marry their own rapist!

    Deuteronomy 22:28-29

    If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay her father fifty shekels[a] of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.

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      I knew of some of these but this is a really good list! Saving this so I have these in my pocket when I need to point out the absurdities to someone trying to use religion against me.

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      The Old Testament
      In the garden of Eden, they were to eat from fruit trees except one.

      After that, the were given leave to eat all.

      After that, God made a covenant with them: Circumcision, Reenforced daily cleanness and uncleanness.
      He required Circumcision & cleanness in not only the body, but also in the heart.

      For the rest
      There are reasons.
      Above all, God is also a father.
      You love disorder, so I’ll assume you are LGBTQ+Satan defender.
      A father should be obeyed.
      Without the father, the children wouldn’t exist.
      It is wise to obey your father.
      Your father loves you.

      A father should not spoil their children.
      A father is free to correct his child.

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        First, I’d suggest you to take some classes on writing and syntax, your posts are barely readable and understandable.

        Second, the old testament is the foundation of the new one so its core tenants are still considered valid by all Christian denominations, some even recognizing it more authority in respect to the new testament.

        Third, a father should be obeyed AS LONG AS he is a reasonable and caring father. An abusive or violent parent should not be obeyed just like a tyrannical or undemocratic ruler shouldn’t, expecially if they ask for something causing stress or harm to his children/subjects.

        Fourth, a child would also not exist without his mother but in your Christian mindset this is never taken into account.

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          Barely readable because you are Italian. (Italians bear with me for a while.)
          Barely understandable? What then can you understand?

          “Second, the old testament”: More display of ignorance.

          Children too don’t like to go to school. I can understand.

          1. School is stressful to children. But they need to be educated to get a job (self employed or not).
          2. Taking bath is stressful to children (they even shout and yell).
          3. The ear of female children needs to be bored for ear rings (great harm).

          There is one God.
          Two Gods: A problem (who created the other?)
          In the order of things here on earth,
          We have carnal fathers and mothers.
          Spiritually, we have fathers and mothers too.

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    If God says murder is cool now, is it cool now? If yes, then your system of morals is arbitrary. If no, then God is only following a moral law, rather than creating it.

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      That’s what scares the fuck out of me when it comes to major religions. If the Pope one day said, “rise up and kill” and only 1% of Catholics followed his orders, the bloodbath would be vast.

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    “Reverend Bob, lay your hands on me and heal my homosexuality! Specifically, lay your hands all over my penis.”

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    The healing of religion—and many such cases have been genuinely healed—comes, like the healing of any other abnormal condition, through the application of the truths of life and man as taught in Science. These truths include rational thought, scientific theory and experimentation, rejection of groupthink, and the elevation and celebration of fellow women and men as Equals.

    FTFY