My problem with linux phones was the hardware. Either far too expensive or too cheap and slow. And the cellular radio is ABSOLUTELY PROPRIETARY.

I would get one at a $300 price point with 12 hour battery life that can play HD video without hiccups. Also would be nice to have open source baseband drivers in it.

I’ve got really low standards that haven’t been met.

for about one year i used exclusively motorola droid4 as mobile device. it runs maemo-leste: mobile linux distribution with nokia’s hildon desktop (revived maemo fremantle sources) on top of devuan linux.

i also myself maintain about ten packages in maemo-leshe repository.

but most of the people won’t use motorola droid 4 and maemo-leste.

they won’t tolerate small screen and they need their ‘apps’ for ‘banking’ or ‘twitter’ or whatever.

i do not use banking apps or twitter or reddit or instagram or whatever they use, so i don’t care.

i used pidgin on that device, even connected to ‘ms teams’ for work via pidgin.

worked more stabre than real ‘teams’ client, but of course pidgin is not the mosh usable app on a small screen.

today i use dino on it for e2e encrypted xmpp messaging. in devuan chimaera dino is old and buggy. well what can i do?

it is okay.

but how many people are ready to give up shiny androids or ioses for this cyberpunk device?

even camera doesn’t work on it.

well, it is normal for mobile linux distributions that camera doesn’t work ot most devices. if it works for photos then not for videos.

well i carry an old small point and shoot with me. i think though it is crappy it makes pdotos better than many phones do.

but i cannot recognize qrcodes with phone.

recently i am trying to use pinephone.

it is more powerful and it has more recent software in postmarketos. my environment is sxmo. it is hde best phone environment ever created, i think. but how many people will agree with me? even pinephone users prefer phosh or kde plasma or something more fancy.

‘’‘’‘’‘’'what i do with pinephone?

first of all i charge it always. it is like tamagocci, if you don’t feed it it will die. so i carry a power bank with me.

it runs about six hours if i dont touch it (without suspend) and about two hours if i run dino.

in best case, if dino won’t make the device unresponsive.

i have an open source program called songrec on it, it can use shazam api and it recognizes music played around. it is a very useful app. and it is adaptive, works in both portrait and landsgape modes.

what else do i do with it? well, browse the web sometimes. but it is often a torture. and i wondur why dont i just do the same on laptop.

yeah and podcasts with gpodder-adaptive.

and radio with shortwave.

i know why i do this: i want to use mostly libre software so i am ready for inconveniences. but not many people are ready to this.

for many years i used sailfish. it is very polished. i would recommend it to ‘regular people’ instead of android.

but i do not like that it doesn’t run on mainline on most devices, so proprietary linux kernel is necessary, the ui framework isn’t libre so we cannot use an app we used to on other platform most of the time. so u r getting locked to sailfish. it is hard to leave it because u cannot take your apps with you. in order to port apps written with their silica classes one needs to rewrite the ui completely.

so i am a person who only used linux phones for years asd i know it is not easy foc regular people.

for me it is ok. i do not need much more than sxmo as environment. i only wish pinephone to not hang as often because of dino. (:

for about one year i used exclusively motorola droid4 as mobile device. it runs maemo-leste: mobile linux distribution with nokia’s hildon desktop (revived maemo fremantle sources) on top of devuan linux.

i also myself maintain about ten packages in maemo-leshe repository.

but most of the people won’t use motorola droid 4 and maemo-leste.

they won’t tolerate small screen and they need their ‘apps’ for ‘banking’ or ‘twitter’ or whatever.

i do not use banking apps or twitter or reddit or instagram or whatever they use, so i don’t care.

i used pidgin on that device, even connected to ‘ms teams’ for work via pidgin.

worked more stabre than real ‘teams’ client, but of course pidgin is not the mosh usable app on a small screen.

today i use dino on it for e2e encrypted xmpp messaging. in devuan chimaera dino is old and buggy. well what can i do?

it is okay.

but how many people are ready to give up shiny androids or ioses for this cyberpunk device?

even camera doesn’t work on it.

well, it is normal for mobile linux distributions that camera doesn’t work ot most devices. if it works for photos then not for videos.

well i carry an old small point and shoot with me. i think though it is crappy it makes pdotos better than many phones do.

but i cannot recognize qrcodes with phone.

recently i am trying to use pinephone.

it is more powerful and it has more recent software in postmarketos. my environment is sxmo. it is hde best phone environment ever created, i think. but how many people will agree with me? even pinephone users prefer phosh or kde plasma or something more fancy.

what i do with pinephone?

first of all i charge it always. it is like tamagocci, if you don’t feed it it will die. so i carry a power bank with me.

it runs about six hours if i dont touch it (without suspend) and about two hours if i run dino.

in best case, if dino won’t make the device unresponsive.

i have an open source program called songrec on it, it can use shazam api and it recognizes music played around. it is a very useful app. and it is adaptive, works in both portrait and landsgape modes.

what else do i do with it? well, browse the web sometimes. but it is often a torture. and i wondur why dont i just do the same on laptop.

yeah and podcasts with gpodder-adaptive.

and radio with shortwave.

i know why i do this: i want to use mostly libre software so i am ready for inconveniences. but not many people are ready to this.

for many years i used sailfish. it is very polished. i would recommend it to ‘regular people’ instead of android.

but i do not like that it doesn’t run on mainline on most devices, so proprietary linux kernel is necessary, the ui framework isn’t libre so we cannot use an app we used to on other platform most of the time. so u r getting locked to sailfish. it is hard to leave it because u cannot take your apps with you. in order to port apps written with their silica classes one needs to rewrite the ui completely.

so i am a person who only used linux phones for years asd i know it is not easy foc regular people.

for me it is ok. i do not need much more than sxmo as environment. i only wish pinephone to not hang as often because of dino. (:

Forget the pinephone as a daily driver. It is nice to play around with and having linux on your phone is awesome. But you can’t really use it as a daily driver. You’ll try it and it’s going to end up in the drawer of unfinished projects. Trust me, I own a pinephone and I know other people who do.

There’s nothing wrong with it. Just like 50 mild annoyances with anything you’re trying to do with it and on top it’s super slow, compared to any other smartphone.

As I read, the phone by Purism isn’t much better and it’s really expensive.

Nope. I would like to but as long as android does an okay job I will stick with that.

I looked into this for myself but I was told a lot of what has already been said here and decided to go with a pixel + graphene OS .

I’m probably sticking with this type of setup until there’s a proper Linux phone that can be easily used as a daily driver.

I think the key is patience. One day I think we’ll have something that will be able to daily drive Linux that won’t feel like you’re using the alpha release of android.

Does anyone use the Oneplus 6T? It is suppose to be the most powerful hardware that can run Postmarket or Ubuntu Touch.