No, that’s a broken promise. Possibly considered a failure.
Lies are intentional from the start, so it would only be a lie if the promise, itself, was never genuine from the beginning, but that’s not in the parameters of the question.
An unfulfilled promise should return an object that is rejected with a given reason. (source)
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This is why we can’t have nice things.
Does Javascript have anything to say about promises that are never resolved/rejected? Is that something that happens?
A lie needs to be intentional. If they meant to fulfill the promise, it wasn’t a lie.
A lie to yourself is still a lie.
Yes. If your history with such promises is you always break them, then making another of those promises is a lie unless you’ve changed something about your ability to deliver
What if they intended to fulfill the promise but never actually did? Does that not make it a lie all the same?
I don’t think so. That would make it a mistake. Just like if I made a claim that I believed true but wasn’t.
No, its only a lie if they say they were going to do it without ever intending to do so. If they intended to do it and something happened that prevented them from doing it, it wasn’t a lie. If you’re looking for a reason to be pissed at someone for not fulfilling a promise you still can be justified depending on the rest of the context.
Lies don’t need to be intentional. You may not have been lying in the moment, but (especially if it’s by your own actions) you have made yourself a liar after the fact if you don’t keep to your promise. Your logic sounds like a narcissist’s rhetoric. Your intent in the moment is worthless without follow through and does not relieve you of responsibility.
Intent in the moment is a part of the definition of a lie, yes.
You have to knowingly provide false information to lie.
Calling me a narcissist for having a different definition of a lie than you is… interesting. I never said it would relieve them of responsibility. You are still responsible for your mistakes and need to stand up for them. But that wasn’t the question. Most definitions of “lie” I can find, such as Merriam Webster’s do explicitly include intent to deceive.
I didn’t call you anything, but it is interesting that you lept to that conclusion. Dictionaries are descriptive not prescriptive, so not sure how that’s relevant in this discussion.
Yes and the thing dictionaries describe is the definitions of words. Since we’re talking about the definition of lying, that’s where the dictionary becomes relevant here.
it is interesting that you lept to that conclusion. That is something a narcissist would do, but I don’t know you so I’ll definitely not calling you that.
I… really don’t know what your problem is. It’s possible to have a civil discussion without throwing around implications like that. Especially if it’s about the frigging definition of a word.
Dictionaries are descriptive not prescriptive, so not sure how that’s relevant in this discussion.
OP asked if something is a lie, so the definition of a lie is what’s relevant to answer this question. OP did not ask for a moral judgement.
An intentionally broken promise is even worse than just any lie. To break a promise means you cannot keep a core part of you consistent.
Pretty much yes.
If a friend/partner promises to change their behaviour or do something specific and does not? Yep, that is a lie.
