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1. Meta/Facebook has a horrific track record on human rights: - https://www.amnesty.org.uk/press-releases/ethiopia-facebook-algorithms-contributed-human-rights-abuses-against-tigrayans - https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/dec/06/rohingya-sue-facebook-myanmar-genocide-us-uk-legal-action-social-media-violence - https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/18/17587080/mark-zuckerberg-holocaust-denial-kara-swisher-interview 2. Meta/Facebook is trying to join the Fediverse. We need to defederate them. 3. If you're a server admin, please defederate Meta's domain "threads.net" (here's how on Mastodon https://fedi.tips/how-to-defederate-fediblock-a-server-on-mastodon/) 4. If you don't run your own server, please ask your server admin to defederate "threads.net". Your admin is listed on your server website's About page.

Meta just announced that they are trying to integrate Threads with ActivityPub (Mastodon, Lemmy, etc.). We need to defederate them if we want to avoid them pushing their crap into fediverse.

If you’re a server admin, please defederate Meta’s domain “threads.net”

If you don’t run your own server, please ask your server admin to defederate “threads.net”.

  • rottingleaf@lemmy.zipEnglish
    2·
    7 months ago

    If anybody remembers XMPP being widespread and what Facebook, Google, Apple and others (say, I personally remember VK and Yandex in Russia supporting it) did to it, that’s what will happen if you “wait and see”.

    EDIT: oh, half the thread is such comments

    • jarfil@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      7 months ago

      I remember what the standardising committee did to XMPP: users wanted to share photos, send files, and make audio/video calls; XMPP said “we’re not going to standardize that, but each application can use its own extensions”… then it all went to hell.

      • rottingleaf@lemmy.zipEnglish
        01·
        7 months ago

        You don’t get how big it was in 2007. I used ICQ and felt some sort of peer pressure (and progress pressure) to switch to XMPP. You could chat in FB via XMPP, in VK via XMPP, a lot of services would just give you an XMPP account because why not. It was like RSS.

        • Kayn@dormi.zoneEnglish
          0·
          7 months ago

          Will the Mastodon and Lemmy instances we have today cease to exist because of Threads federating?

          I’m just genuinely curious how we could be worse off than before.

          • pelespirit@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            1·
            7 months ago

            From a previous comment of mine:

            To be clear, I want it to be users deciding on Lemmy too. Also, people already here moving to threads wouldn’t be the problem, we’re small in comparison to them. It would be a few things:

            • They would bring in a huge party of users that would take it over and overwhelm the current users. It would be like a cruise ship of tourists taking over a small town and breaking everything for the current residents.
            • They could post to Lemmy, but we can’t really post to Mastodon. They’re going to send ads our way disguised as content, guaranteed.
            • If they can manipulate the users from Mastodon, it’s going to get out of hand fast. They have teams of devs and psych engineering to accomplish that.
            • This is volunteer ran, do we have enough energy to fight Meta when they try to enforce something?
            • Can they manipulate Activity Pub software because we’re a small team of devs? If they can, they will.
            • One person mentioned them having instance owners sign NDAs. What’s up with that?
            • Meowoem@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              01·
              7 months ago

              It doesn’t benefit them to send adds disguised because they are paid to provide ad impressions which they wouldn’t have data for. It’s just an annoying business model not a conspiracy to brainwash you.

                • Meowoem@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                  01·
                  7 months ago

                  That’s why you need Nord VPN so you can play raid shadow legends safely…

                  The thing is they have so much less control if they do that, I’m fed up of places with adverts where comments are turned off or heavily moderate - if their post comes here they can’t do any of that, I say we let them come, we let them come and then we smash them