With a border deal hanging in the balance and the Iowa caucuses a month away, Donald Trump amplified his attack on immigrants at a rally in New Hampshire on Saturday.

“They’re poisoning the blood of our country,” the former president said. “They’ve poisoned mental institutions and prisons all over the world. Not just in South America, not just the three or four countries that we think about, but all over the world they’re coming into our country from Africa, from Asia.”

While in the White House, Trump sought to deter immigration by building a wall on the U.S.-Mexico border, building some 450 miles of fencing along the nearly 2,000-mile border, much of which replaced existing barriers. In addition to strict border security measures, his administration also implemented a travel ban for people from several predominantly Muslim countries.

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    As I watch the Muslim community threatening Joe Biden, I really truly wonder if they could actually cut their own noses off and vote for this clear threat to their existence in America.

    That anyone can stand up and say this to a crowd of Americans and still legitimately have a chance to win the presidency is terrifying.

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      Understanding this phenomena is part of tolerance. Muslims are very hierarchal culturally. Generally new immigrants see themselves as on the lower end of the hierarchy with several layers of people above them who are within their rights to oppress them. Unfortunately, Muslims tend to see LGBTQ+ as belonging below them. Biden might be saying “we’ll make America better for you”, but until they see LGBTQ+ people as worse off than them, someone with a hierarchal mindset will not feel better off.

      Trump might say “we’re going to oppress Muslims”, but he’s also saying “we’re going to oppress gays and trans much more”. Someone that’s hierarchal minded will see that as improving his position in society. Their position isn’t absolute, it’s relative.

      To beat this we have to understand that most immigrants, not just Muslims, have a hierarchical mindset. We need to fight against social hierarchy as a mindset, and include that in the messaging we give to new immigrants. We also have to understand that LGBTQ+ rights are going to lose us considerable immigrant vote and time our pushes accordingly to ensure the best chance of success and the fastest possible progress.

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      It beats the other message of Americans second. People are watching Chicago and NYC go down the tubes under the burden of illegal immigration. Marginalized communities are also seeing thier hand outs get taken by said groups.

      So yea an American first message is very compelling and every day more people are flocking to it

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        This is not a coherent position. You’re basically just talking about feelings, not actual facts or policy.

        Also, where can I find this “Americans second” message you speak of? Where did you see or hear that? Are you sure you’re not making it up?

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          Read up on new york. Illegal migrants are now taking poor new Yorkers food and shelter spots.

          Go look at Chicago and the black marches against the mayor.

          As long as the souther border is open then bidens message is Americans second.

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            Seems like you’ve been manipulated by propaganda. Your response is regurgitating talking points. It’s not a thoughtful, meaningful response to the questions posed to you.

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              I present to you things that are actually happening and you ignore it. I think you ate the one consuming too much propaganda.

              Here are migrants taking low income new Yorkers food

              https://youtu.be/7hI9sddVrQI?si=wdZfQbguwRbPcELq

              https://youtu.be/Y5tldW8qMcM?si=p28CLAq-OoXRRVCs

              Here are black Chicago residents seeing the mayor to get deportations going

              https://youtu.be/iVh9wCKME5Q?si=Ba7Y9UXND8tMnJch

              Of course I know the play book you operate on. You will ignore it or claim the sources are bias continuing to live in your own echo chamber.

              Mean while the poor and desolate continue to get screwed over by bidens open immigration policy.

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                Yeah, how often do you even read anything outside your own echo chamber, i wonder?

                I don’t reject sources because of who said it. I actually read stuff I don’t expect to agree with. Then I reject stuff I now know is founded on stupid arguments…

                Oh, and without immigration, America would not exist. They are the blood of this country. Just saying.

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                  There is a difference between legal amd illegal immigration. But you already know that.

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                    Your comment is utterly irrelevant to the issue of blatant bigotry and prejudice. But that doesn’t bother you.

                    In your case, don’t touch grass; you’d probably poison it. :p