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What are your chromosomes? What are Elon Musk’s chromosomes? You seem to be positing the idea that chromosomes are the ultimate determinant of “womanhood” and “manhood”, but you, like most of humanity, probably don’t even know what chromosomes you have. To quote you: “biologically speaking” there are scores of cis men and women whose chromosomes would surprise you. “Biologically speaking” there isn’t any usable definition of man or woman that excludes trans people without excluding cis people. You and a lot of people make an assumption of what their chromosomes are in order to exclude trans people (because you assume you know theirs too). And maybe we shouldn’t. Maybe that’s bullshit.
Alright, you convinced me. I’m switching to Team Elmo.
That was your goal right? Take someone who agrees with your larger belief system, find something you can nitpick, and then berate them about it until they can’t stomach the thought of politically aligning with you?
Because you did a bang up job.
Now excuse me, I need to go sign up for Twitter Blue and get some MAGA hats.
They’re saying chromosomes are a good measure for “transness” or “cisness”.
No, they’re not. They’re saying that because a person’s chromosomes don’t change based on whether they are trans or cis that a clear biological answer to the question being posed is impossible.
Like… did you read the rest of the person’s comment? It’s pretty clear they are not anti-trans if you read the entire context and don’t just cherry pick a random sentence .
I’d argue that it’s pretty obvious that man and woman are socially constructed, and as such - there’s just no fact of the matter to get down to. I also find that most things of strict self-id basically become just a place to have “no true scotsman” arguments, and therefore we’d be better served to stop using the terms for policy making at the very least.
What are your chromosomes? What are Elon Musk’s chromosomes? You seem to be positing the idea that chromosomes are the ultimate determinant of “womanhood” and “manhood”, but you, like most of humanity, probably don’t even know what chromosomes you have. To quote you: “biologically speaking” there are scores of cis men and women whose chromosomes would surprise you. “Biologically speaking” there isn’t any usable definition of man or woman that excludes trans people without excluding cis people. You and a lot of people make an assumption of what their chromosomes are in order to exclude trans people (because you assume you know theirs too). And maybe we shouldn’t. Maybe that’s bullshit.
Alright, you convinced me. I’m switching to Team Elmo.
That was your goal right? Take someone who agrees with your larger belief system, find something you can nitpick, and then berate them about it until they can’t stomach the thought of politically aligning with you?
Because you did a bang up job.
Now excuse me, I need to go sign up for Twitter Blue and get some MAGA hats.
You do you, my friend. -Team Gonzo
The person you’re replying to doesn’t seem to be implying anything you’re arguing against in your response.
"Being trans doesn’t change one’s chromosomes "
They’re saying chromosomes are a good measure for “transness” or “cisness”. I’m saying it’s not. And there isn’t a measure.
No, they’re not. They’re saying that because a person’s chromosomes don’t change based on whether they are trans or cis that a clear biological answer to the question being posed is impossible.
Like… did you read the rest of the person’s comment? It’s pretty clear they are not anti-trans if you read the entire context and don’t just cherry pick a random sentence .
I’d argue that it’s pretty obvious that man and woman are socially constructed, and as such - there’s just no fact of the matter to get down to. I also find that most things of strict self-id basically become just a place to have “no true scotsman” arguments, and therefore we’d be better served to stop using the terms for policy making at the very least.
Completely agree. You said what I was trying to say probably better than I did.