Please tell her to stop. Nobody needs this kind of help.
Oh you want to get water out of your boat? Let me help you with this drill.
I’ll just displace the water with acid! Oh and some fire will evaporate it!
Holy shit are they trying to lose?
Cool let’s just make our odds to get Biden back even fucking worse. Fuck sakes, can’t this bitch just crawl into a hole somewhere and disappear
This is the same woman who thought bringing in Henry Kissinger with her made her more electable.
I wonder if they’re dragging her out because he’s not available…
Henry Kissinger died and now she’s after a new ancient war criminal.
Or maybe her afternoons opened up now that she’s not spending them enthusing about warfare with her dear friend, one of history’s greatest monsters. Perhaps a little of both.
She’s got a type
Yeah, thanks, we’re good.
Go away Hilldawg
Oh god, she is NOT a help. She’s how we got Trump in the first place. We really need her to stay out of the news from now on.
Voting against the orange dictator regardless. So her involvement won’t sway me a bit.
same here, but I suspect there’s a significant amount of people that will be put off. She could have just supported the campaign financially without announcing anything, that would have been great.
I’m not American but what I have seen of her (Not much) gives me Dolores Umbridge vibes from Potter, she even kinda looks like her. So probably a bad thing but won’t hurt Biden more than supporting a genocide at least.
She has absolutely zero charisma, just not a likeable or trustworthy individual.
It honestly amazes me the calibre of candidate America has been able to put forward the last few years, you have either Hillary, or a selection of coffin dodgers.
That’s because the ruling class is a bunch of zombies running the earth into the ground for profit. You have to be a soulless goul to get approval to run for office. There are zero new ideas or vision, just greed vampires.
It’s a problem, how do you rise to power without having to do awful things that make you just like them…
Shit I remember I loved the show The Boys bc it showed how you had to compromise every single one of your values to reach anywhere …
There’s a phrase or quote about this that I can’t remember…
Something about how the people you would actually want to govern would never volunteer to do so.
“ The major problem—one of the major problems, for there are several—one of the many major problems with governing people is that of whom you get to do it; or rather of who manages to get people to let them do it to them.
To summarize: it is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it.
To summarize the summary: anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.”
Written by Douglas Adams
Why would you run for office if not for personal gain? Only an idiot would put themselves through that wringer for the betterment of society. Because you will never change the system, the system exists to extract wealth from the weak to give to the strong. Thinking otherwise is delusional and demands scorn or at least suspicion.
I’m feeling extra cynical today.
ITT: “The whole system is broken and it will never get better because every candidate is awful and good people never run. Why does nobody like me ever run for office?”
Also ITT: ”Why would you run for office if not for personal gain? ”
I know you’re just being cynical, and I’m just poking at you… but really, though. For the people, by the people, and of the people. If you hate the people running so much, seriously, step up and run! That’s the entire point of our system!
I’m usually a proponent of that ethos. I do take part civicly. I think the further up the ladder you go the more polluted your ethics tend to get. We appear to have it slightly better in Canada, for the time being. I’ve lost hope for you dudes down there. I think you’re fucked. Sorry.
I don’t know if you understood, I already hit my ceiling. I’m not willing to compromise any more to actually be able to do something.
I truly wanted to leave this world better then how I found it.
But in a society made for psychopaths to thrive I don’t think I have it in me. Even If I could hold on, when I got to a position that matters I probably sacrificed so much that I would be little better then them. Not to mention that probably I will be surrounded by awful people that make me wonder who am I doing this for.
Basically, I don’t think I can do it, just hanging out with those shitty legacy kids already takes me out of the game and you (unfortunately )need those conections to advance. But they say shit like, "I bet I can spit in that homeless " or "I can’t wait until my grandma dies so i can inherit "
They can go places because they grew up in a bunch of places that allow them to know everyone important in a country, ivy legacies. But then they have the moral values of a sociopath at best… How do you create change if you have to be around these people and not lose hope
As far as her being trustworthy, personally I’d trust her as much or more than about 90% of politicians out there, which is admittedly a pretty low bar, and probably says more about how shit our politicians are overall as opposed to being a particularly positive comment about her.
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t exactly like her, she’s far from my first choice, but overall I’d generally trust her to do what she says she’s going to do. I may not always like what she says she’s going to do, but sadly the bar is low enough that just being upfront about the ways she’d fuck us over is almost refreshing compared to the flat out lies and bait-and-switch schemes and such most politicians pull.
I also generally trust her to not be outright malicious- greedy, misguided, short-sighted, stubborn, and/or wrong, sure, I could definitely see those, but I don’t think she’s generally out to hurt people she doesn’t like just for the sake of hurting people, which again is sadly how low our bar is set.
No other real disagreements with your comment, I’d agree that shes not charismatic, not likeable, but fairly trustworthy as far as politicians go, which is a huge asterisk to throw on there.
If I woke up from a coma into a world with president Hillary, I’d be far from thrilled, but I could also kind of shrug it off as “well we could have done a lot worse.”
I agree. I don’t think she’s worse than any other liberal politician, and I think notably better than all but the most progressive ones (like better than Biden probably) . Her biggest sin (imo) is that she’s not very charismatic. Like the opposite of Michelle Obama - who’s very likeable and charismatic but has no political ambitions.
The only relevant thing she has done in like 20 years is accurately call them deplorables, which they are, you know, a broken clock and all that.
She gonna advise Biden on how to lose to Trump? She was really good at that. She as crooked as a $3 bill and I can’t wait to never have to hear her name again.
She’s been investigated for bullshit more times than anyone else. Ever. Either the Republikkkans are the stupidest people on earth and can’t find a shred of evidence for any supposed wrongdoing after three decades of fine tooth combing, or she’s one of the cleanest, boringest, little old white ladies in politics there is.
While I don’t doubt the stupidity of the modern republican, even Mr. Magoo would have found something after 30 years.
She’s as corrupt as any corporate owned neoliberal Warhawk. Bought and paid for since Bill was govenor. I voted for her because what other choice did I have? But it was a bitter pill to swallow.
So now she’s not crooked? Just an ordinary vanilla politician? Because yes. She is a vanilla boring politician. She is not corrupt like a Trump. She is not idiotic like a Dubya. She’s not a criminal like the majority of the cabinet positions from the 2016-2020 era of dystopia.
But being a money hungry politician running for political office in an oligarchy. And since Citizens United, the US is one of the most corrupt oligarchies on the planet. It takes money to play and she knows what she has to do to get money to run and win a non-rigged election for even the highest office while giving some energy back to supporters way down the line that voted for her. This is American politics. And it’s disgusting.
And since Citizens United, the US is one of the most corrupt oligarchies on the planet.
I think you overestimate most of the planet.
Not at all. Get your head out of the American propaganda and you’ll see what a war hungry corrupt nation it is. Shithole country that needs to burn down and start again.
Oh the US is a corrupt, war mongering nation. Absolutely.
But the worst? No.
Not the worst, no, but that’s not what they said. They said ONE OF the worst, which is absolutely true.
Thank you, but no.
big surprise. conservatives need to stick together, after all
Did they not get the memo? It almost seems like biden is trying to lose at this point
Good to see the Biden Campaign is bringing along proven winners who can appeal to voters that Biden desperately needs.
