Another player who was at the table during the incident sent me this meme after the problem player in question (they had a history) left the group chat.

Felt like sharing it here because I’m sure more people should keep this kind of thing in mind.

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    10 months ago

    I don’t have a problem with having disabled people in a TTRPG setting, but I hate the “it’s fantasy, stop whining about realism” argument.

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        10 months ago

        Something being fiction is no reason to throw expectations and consistency out the window.

        It’s not that there is a wheelchair in a fantasy setting. It’s that the setting is typical high fantasy that may have magic but is otherwise very low tech. But then you have this out of place modern wheelchair made from a steel tube frame.

        It’s like if the bard and the paladin disagree any some fact, then the paladin put down his shield and mace just to pull out his fucking iPhone to show that he was right all along.

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            10 months ago

            I thought that too, but then I saw their weapons are literally sticks, lol. There’s a fancy one with a rock tied to the end.

            The bald guy looks to have some armor though. But armor (or sword) hammered out by a blacksmith is still quite different than a welded tube frame with all straight lines and right angles.

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              10 months ago

              Absolutely, but look at lord of the rings. the orcs while industrialized and definitively in the iron age are not as advanced as the dwarfs or the elves. Then you have the hobbits who still live in dirt holes.

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        10 months ago

        Once you establish a baseline for how that fictional world functions, any deviation from it causes issues with the suspension of disbelief.

        Your argument is the same one people have been using for years to deflect any and all criticisms when writers fail to keep up with their own world building or are just too damn lazy to care.

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          10 months ago

          First of all not all parts of a fictional universe have to have the same level of technological advancements. Within that baseline you can do whatever you want it’s fiction. Also the reader or audience doesn’t know everything there is about the world and might have gaps of knowledge.

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            10 months ago

            The argument you’re defending is that a fantasy world doesn’t need to have any realism, yet you’re defending it by coming up with reasons why this fantasy world is actually realistic.

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              10 months ago

              there are a lot of inconsistencies, why are people only focused on the ones that allow people with wheelchair to identify with the main character or whatever?