Crushed? Or drove away tons of OC creators and active members leaving a bot filled wasteland?
I mean, it’s a victory if they shout it loudly enough, right? A lie repeated long enough, so it goes:
Company is going bankrupt, users are gone, laying off the bottom quartile of the company, but they stopped the protest! Etc.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Reddit_API_controversy
https://www.reuters.com/breakingviews/reddits-golden-geese-foul-up-its-ipo-plans-2023-06-16/
It’s like reading the top two lines of a disaster report and declaring victory. Fuck Reddit.
Even during the protest a lot of users thought it was caused by “power-mad” mods, some people just eat what they’re fed.
Well, I still visit Reddit once a week since there are communities there that don’t yet exist here (or they are nearly empty).
I’m now all the time on Lemmy and am even much more active than what I ever was on Reddit, but I only have so much time.
I noticed there are slightly less quality posts in some subreddits, but I wouldn’t call Reddit crushed.
In fact, subscribers in all the subreddits I used to follow are actually up and even by a lot, while Lemmy users don’t really seem to increase by much (though I’d like them to).
I’d like to see a sudden growth in Lemmy and fall of Reddit, but I don’t think it’s anywhere near (though I’ll keep doing my part here!)
The comments on Reddit are way worse now, it’s extremely noticeable. Look at comments on /r/science for example. They’re all shitty jokes which used to get deleted.
The vast majority of subs are completely unmoderated now or taken over by a small group of people. Like /r/worldnews allowing people to openly support literal genocide of Arabs.
Reddit quality absolutely took a hit after this debacle.
Reddit always had a problem with far right/anti science dogwhistlers, but it also seems like it’s gotten much worse. Maybe I was just desensitized and I’m noticing it more because I don’t go there much, or maybe it is actually worse because it’s an election year, but it also wouldn’t surprise me if the .01% of frequent commentors who left full-time for Lemmy represent a significant brain drain.
not just you, it is significantly worse. And many have been banned for reporting hate
Ah, I hadn’t noticed this level of worsening. I suppose because when I visit I still go to niche subreddits and there the impact is less noticeable (but you do notice it).
I suppose great moderators have left the platform and they’ve been replaced by others who would like to be as good (but are crippled by new Reddit rules allowing many more trolls) or those that just don’t care or are straight crazy!
Wasn’t there like a bot defense team that published a ban list or something but they just gave up during the exodus?
I’d like to see a sudden growth in Lemmy and fall of Reddit, but I don’t think it’s anywhere near
I don’t. Let the idiots stay on reddit. Leave lemmy how it is. Is it so terrible that one might have to visit reddit to find some niche communities?
I don’t disagree with you!
I just would like to see certain niche communities grow here too because Lemmy is great and (so far) it feels like the conversations here are nicer, so I’d like people to move here to make Lemmy even better
Fair point.
There’s nothing wrong with Lemmy growing in an organic sustainable way, but I dislike the attitude that lemmy ought to be a reddit replacement or that lemmy should grow from the ashes of reddit.
Lemmy should be it’s own thing with it’s own culture and history and communities.
I get a bit peeved when lemmy users (not necessarily you) get a bit obsessive about transferring communities to lemmy from reddit. Just focus on creating good content for Lemmy and forget about the rest.
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Crushed. Lots lots more of over at reddit as well as a smaller percent reposting.
Lemmys front page is a ton of bots reposting content from Reddit.
Neither of the services have a lot of OC.
Yeah, turns out the lawless fediverse needs a few laws and a governing board.
Is “Crushed” a new term for driving away the most active and interesting users away?
I sometimes use Instagram though and it’s soo much bot and ai contend.
Idk Reddit cuz I don’t go there anymore, but it seems the internet is fakker and fakker.
I just hope it’s real people that im messing with here in Lemmy. Because at least y’all still fight and argue XD, the comments aren’t brain dead.
Except for these guys that I just talked to that said they didn’t like Oppenheimer
As an example, I don’t understand people decrying reposted content from reddit. Also we have Risa, they don’t.
But reposting is literally what reddit is too. And how it got started, reposting and bot comments from Digg. At least here you lot are all great to talk with.
r/Risa actually started on Reddit (source: I created it) and the mods who didn’t quit for Lemmy decided to reopen, but the Lemmy version is definitely the more active and superior of the two, IMO.
Dead internet theory
This post made by a normal human person
This post made by a normal human person
Sure thing, 7u5k3n 🤔
AI are built to be digital humans, not emulate
AI are built to be digital humans, not emulate
I for one am a totally normal human person
Hello fellow human
Oh hi! Let’s discuss some human issues, like eating and watching TV, fellow human. Because I’m also human.
Ha ha ha, I agree. Watching TV is fun and my blood flow is currently perfectly adequate for this activity.
YOU ALL HAVE VERY STRANGE ACCENTS FOR HUMANS, WHERE DO YOU HAIL FROM? I TOO ENJOY WATCHING VIDEOS, AND PLAYING VIDEO GAMES WITH MY FELLOW HUMANS
Beep boop
My only problem with Oppenheimer is that they should have issued earplugs upon entering the theater. Shit hurt my ears.
Like, I get that bombs are loud, but I don’t need to actually feel pain and probably damage my hearing to get the picture.
Reminds me: do we have an earrumblers community yet
This is so true, when you go there now it’s full of “reply guys”, gatekeepers and trolls. There’s little to no sense of community and the money grabbing is even more upfront and obvious.
I havent used reddit at all since August and from June 12 to August i was on the site for ~10 minutes total. I am a total lemmy user now with no need to use reddit at all. I dont even miss it since i can get everything here i did over their.
Same. I had an account that was probably 12+ years old. Reddit was a huge part of my recreational schedule.
I genuinely prefer Lemmy. The lack of algorithms pushing engagement is good for the soul. It’s here when I want it and I can leave it whenever I’m done.
Reddit was a big part of my day too. I had redreader easily accessible so i could just pop it open whenever i wanted to. Now Thunder has taken its place.
I’ve only been there when DuckDuckGo has directed me there in a search.
Oh yeah I feel soooooo defeated and crushed just like soooooo sad that I have to be here and not with spez
I haven’t been back since the exodus. Fuck reddit. Fuck spez
I had a specific problem today that googling didn’t help (it was a google account problem, go figure). I added reddit to the search terms and clicked into reddit for the first time in months. All I can say is that their UI is purposely horrible. Like, so fucking bad.
I would rather join tiktok than use reddit at this point. That should sound like sarcasm, or hyperbole, but it isn’t. Lemmy is feeling like the last social media network I’ll join, and as soon as lemmy gets to the toxicity levels of reddit, which no offense but I feel will be soon, I’m probably going to be the weird person that just uses their phone to call their family, utility companies, and watch hardcore anal fisting, footing, and prolapsing videos.
Whoa, I was with you there until the last bit.
In all seriousness, I do feel like Lemmy (and oddly, this community in particular) is quite toxic. There’s a lot of shouting matches and aggressively partisan one side vs. the other commentary and voting. Even on Reddit there was more civility that encouraged discourse.
Here on Lemmy—and to continue your theme of closing a comment with an awful visual—it’s often a bunch of circle jerking.
I noticed immediately that Lemmy was far less vitriolic than reddit was, but that seems to be changing quickly.
Some of my comments are entirely satire. Some are formal, but a lot of them are my not-so-hard takes or opinions on general bullshit. One of the first comments I made on lemmy a few months ago was still how I feel about social media. Once the “/s” is necessary to distinguish jokes from reality in a community, hate has already won.
While a lot of my comments are generally well received, I’ve been finding that my purely satirical comments have been being disliked at increasingly larger rates, seemingly because users aren’t sure if I’m joking or not. Maybe it’s the audience changing or maybe my satire isn’t landing, but that leads me to something worse.
What I find is a more dismal indicator is that my inoculous opinions aren’t being refuted, I’m just being called stupid for having them. I don’t think I’ve outright insulted someone, or called someone stupid since I was an 11 year old on AIM, but that is what seems to be becoming the norm on lemmy.
Now I’m not saying i can’t take the bullshit. Ill embrace it when given, but if this place was supposed to replace reddit, or be a more free and accepting group or communities, it’s failing. Newcomers aren’t going to stay here long if we can’t get along, and communities aren’t going to thrive with toxic echo chamber tendencies.
Anyway, if anyone wants to have tongue in cheek banter, too bad. I’ll be watching Latex Angel and hotkinkyjo videos. HKJ can fit entire human leg in her torso.
Edit: I also seem to have a follower.(?) I find it odd that most of my comments have a single downvote. Maybe I’m wrong, but if I’m not, downvote away stranger. At least I know you care about me.
Are you my alter ego? I feel exactly the same way!
In many subreddits that I used to follow, there was that kind of healthy banter. I genuinely appreciated that there was a community where the collective mindset was to encourage constructive conversation, even if the content of the discussion wasn’t something you’d necessarily agree with.
Looking back, I appreciate how much effort it must have taken to create and foster that space. Lemmy is unfortunately, from my experience, a much more toxic place. It would be great to see the majority of readers adopt a mentality of voting based on discourse. I know that I try to do my part…
I moderated a couple dozen specialized communities. I left them after 15 years of being on Reddit, and haven’t been back in 5 months. They’re effectively dead now, weeks between posts and no activity.
Many niche sub’s have been murdered but the big shitsubs are still going strong with bots and spammers, so they have that going for them, I guess.
Thank you for your service.
I deleted my account and it was liberating. Nowadays I only go there when I want to look up something for a game on Google.
Unfortunately, the vast storehouse of information on Reddit makes it impossible to remove it from your life completely. Of course, a lot of that was built up before the douchebag decided to kill third party apps and tell Reddit users that they didn’t really matter that much to him. You mean the people whose comments built your site brick by brick? Okay, sure. Why would they be important?
If I’m that unimportant to you, I can be unimportant elsewhere.
It’s not even remotely impossible. Inconvinient, maybe.
Right? My brother in Christ, I could add a single line to one text file and reddit would be gone from my life except for the fact that people on Lemmy seem to never shut up about it. I keep it around for research, but I could live without that too, if it mattered.
Almost every info you find on Reddit can be found elsewhere. After all, Reddit is an aggregation machine, but it doesn’t produce that much unique content.
I use a 3rd party API modded app with a burner a and check on niche communities that Lemmy doesn’t have yet…I do not comment, upvote or engage.
I have RSS set up for the things I want. It’s quite nice, I see what I want quickly and easily, and don’t engage.
I started using reddit in 2011. Was nuts to see the changes it underwent. A lot of them bad.
Since leaving reddit during that protest, been more than happy to call Lemmy home. Especially when I go back to browse reddit occasionally and see how incredibly toxic and negative it is all the time. I don’t know if I was blind to it before or if it got worse. Every comment thread is awful. They focus on the negative of everything and are just bitter and angry.
Place sucks ass.
I’d you disagree with the wrong mod or say something “offensive” banned. They look at your appeal and nothing changes.
At this point it’s just adult children “working” in their parents basement not making any money.
Bro if you comment in a subreddit the mods don’t like you’re instantly banned, even if ironic. Mods over there are on a power trip and the lack of a modlog means zero accountability.
Even with a modlog, the mods are clearly removing comments. I can’t tell you how many times I’ll click on a link that reads anywhere from 10-25 “more comments in this thread,” only for it to tell me there are no more comments when I click to load them.
I don’t know how bans work over here, but I have seen lemmings complain that they got banned temporarily, but never got any notifications of the ban.
It’s clearly better than what happened to Reddit, but there still seem to be some bad faith actors about.
Well yeah they’re going to exist everywhere. But with Lemmy you have some accountability. On reddit you have none.
As for bans with no notifications, that’s not on the mods. That is on the developers of Lemmy and why so many people are frustrated with them. They’re ignoring admins, have no real timeline on feature development, and aren’t focusing on major issues that have been reported. The Lemmy Devs keep dragging their feet and if they’re not careful it could end up with someone making a lemmy competitor that still works with Lemmy. I know I’d go straight for it as a mod and as a user.
I used to go to the The Last of Us subreddit to just vent about the horrible writing in the second part of the game. Jesus, that was s cult. People had to create s second subreddit just to criticize the game. Now, the original subreddit calls names and bans anyone mentioning “the other” subreddit.
Now, I’m from Mexico. The subreddit /r/Mexico is the equivalent to /r/Conservative to the USA. But named after my country, people goes there without knowing this, it’s so damn alienating.
Reddit crushed itself more than anything. Sure they ended the protest, but that place is a ghost-town now, all that’s left are the bots and politcal propaganda pushers. Stale links that are several days old populate the front pages of the big subs.
So… Just like Facebook which is the biggest SoMe platform in the world?
I don’t think reddit cares, as long as user numbers stay roughly the same. They did.
I used Reddit from 2010-2023. They crushed the protest alright and also ruined the site. I’ve lost all interest in using it. Fuck Reddit. Fuck Spez.
The title does make it look like reddit is completely fine…when it’s like them burning down their own house to get rid of a house guest that was just staying to long.
It was probably more akin to smashing up the conservatory but the owners have enough money that they just got the windows replaced the week after. The windows have a slight tint to them that wasn’t there before but the owners don’t care enough.
Just looked at Reddit after a long while. That new redesign is horrendous.
Hey, I’m over here in Methadone Reddit, getting by. It’s not as fun as Reddit used to be, but after the bug-eyed lemur boy decided to be a leading tech giant™ and fuck over his users in the process, I decided it was time to amscray. Sorry, King Julien. It was fun for a while, before your embarrassing power trip, but now you’re just going to have to kiss my mad-ass-gasgar.
not as fun as Reddit used to be
Reddit isn’t as fun as Reddit used to be either
All reddit did was unmask themselves a little but only for those with their eyes open. Social media is close enough to a cult operation utilizing addictive behaviors and conditioning to control people. People are scared to leave their church and be shunned. Reddit is just another exploitative techbro run business. It isn’t a social enterprise or open source community and it is weird that volunteers invested so much of their time and effort propping up shareholder value instead of contributing to real communities.
Plenty of independent thinkers left and found federated alternatives or walked away. The predatory and manipulative nature of social media was bad enough when it was all about controlling and manipulating the masses but now it is also a huge machine learning harvesting operation. The only people who really benefit are the ultra rich.
I know how everyone just wants to pipe up and say, “well it didn’t crush me hur hur”, but I actually watched the video. It’s a good record of what went down. I wish it would’ve mentioned Reddit alternatives, but it’s still solid work.
And to anyone who still maintains that the protest has fatally wounded Reddit, look, I’m on your side but Reddit is still the 800 lb gorilla of link aggregation, and most folks still don’t get why they should care about API pricing.
800 pound gorilla only lasts until a kid falls in the cage
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I use my own third party app no problems, the ecosystem is much better than here.
I’m almost glad they did this. It cut my social media time down drastically, and really nothing of value was lost.
Yeah, they threatened and when I didn’t budge, they disabled my account. I found out lately, because I have been gone from that hellhole since summer. Somehow they forgot to reopen my subreddit I’ve marked as Private. I’m (was) the sole admin. Well, go fuck yourself Spaz.
