- cross-posted to:
- snoocalypse@lemmy.ml
- reddit@lemmy.ml
- cross-posted to:
- snoocalypse@lemmy.ml
- reddit@lemmy.ml
Some of Reddit’s most popular communities have posted open letters to the company with a series of requests regarding many key issues at the heart of the recent protests on the platform. They want a response by June 29th.
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This feels very much like a “when someone shows you who they are, believe them” type scenario. Even if Reddit backtracks and courts 3rd party apps in their eco-system, they’ve shown themselves. They don’t care about communities, users, or mods.
When your abusive partner promises to stop beating you, you should not go back to the relationship. They will beat you again.
Looking at a subreddit that I joined right now, there is a poll about the future of the subreddit and the protest and 53% are to stay open.
MANY in the comments see the protest as useless and that it “hurts the community”. While I agree with the point that it locks users out from the subreddit, especially for tech support, I can tell you that they all don’t really care about this.
I also have seen someone create a replacement subreddit for the private one just to fill the gap.
And looking at all those Awards being given out in the posts about the AMAs and such, I have very little hope that something will change on Reddit’s side.
I think, all the mods of those subreddits just pack up and leave to the alternatives like lemmy and let the Subreddits rot.
It’s time to stop begging and start leaving.
Agreed. I think we need to establish a better migration system for users. It’s honestly extremely easy to get set up on, say, lemmy.world. it took me a couple minutes to make an account, download apps, and log in on my computer and my phone.
I think a lot of redditors are afraid of having to learn a new thing and word on the street over there is that the federated communities are hard to understand. We need to let them know it’s not that bad and provide easy steps to migrate. I think if they actually know how painless it can be, more would migrate.
Not to mention, many users just look at /r/all anyway, so they won’t even need to worry about subscribing or navigating away from their local instance. I’ve been trying to include some very basic steps to get started and then, if they are so inclined, they can learn more about how the federation works as they go.
Gotta say, I thought it sounded a lil complicated at first. I’d heard ‘Lemmy.world’ mentioned a few times, so I came over and signed up…. And that’s it. There wasn’t anything complicated at all. Been here a few days now and loving it so far.
Exactly. What I’m seeing over on reddit almost seems like pro-reddit propaganda. They make it sound impossible to get into and inevitable to fail. But let’s be honest, the numbers here have been impressive this last week. It’ll probably only grow from here. I’m hoping my little comments here and there on reddit might help bring people over faster. Hopefully others can do the same.
I agree, and I’m trying to do the same. I just said this in a different thread somewhere else; but it seems to me like it’s less about how complicated the platform is, and more about how users are communicating about it.
Like, I don’t give a shit about the mod tools, or instances, or whatever else; I just want a place to come and look at art and read about game programming. Those more behind-the-scene details are cool, and certainly important, but it’s not a very good selling point for users who just want to leave Reddit and want something to fill that void.
According to Reddit spokesperson Tim Rathschmidt, “We’ll no longer comment on hearsay, unsubstantiated claims, or baseless accusations from The Verge. We’ll be in touch as corrections are needed.”
So, this part, at the bottom of the article, tells me everything I need to know. Reddit is going to keep chugging along with their ridiculous plan.
I haven’t deleted my account on Reddit yet, still trying to delete my comments. Guess I should have used a tool.
I found an article that uses RES to bulk delete comments. It worked well for me.
https://www.alphr.com/how-to-delete-all-reddit-posts/
I changed the interval to 500ms like the mentioned, and it wiped my accounts 12 year history in a couple of minutes.
Reddit has given several responses, full of contempt, belittlement, and insults. Oh, and threats. Can’t forget the threats.
Hey reddit mods: reddit doesn’t give a damn about you, your sub, or the community you built. Yes, it sucks. Yes, it hurts. Don’t be a fool and wait around for another response. The sooner you move on from reddit, the better off you’ll be.
Bad idea, this looks like Stockholm syndrome to me.
Reddit has already shown they will screw everyone over, and no amount of blowback so far has gotten them to change course.
Leave (and optionally try to give Reddit as much hell as possible on the way out). That’s the only answer now.
I don’t think there is any redemption either, even if u/spez is removed. He’s not the first bad head of the company, if anything the company has never had any good heads.
I made a script that changes all my old comments to gibberish, but I haven’t used it yet. I can’t decide if it’s a good idea or not. I’m not saying that my old comments are extremely useful, but I wouldn’t want to prevent people from reading or having context or any help I’ve given.
They will simply roll your edits back.
Dont give them the clicks
Just move on
Maybe delete your account
All deleting your account does is remove your username from your comments while also removing your ability to delete or edit said comments. It makes more sense to keep it active so you have more control over your data.
And gives you a reason to stop visiting the site.
The data stopped belonging to you as soon as you posted it*
*unless you live somewhere GDPR applies or like california•*
•and if reddit actually complies•
Yeah, reddit is restoring bulk edits made using the api but you can still go to your user profile, sort by top scoring comments, and manually change your top 10-20 comments
Dude reddit isn’t for you. It is okay. It is a business and they have a right to do whatever they want with their business, but IDK how many more ways they can say “You aren’t important to me” before people stop saying “But I should be important to you!”
I don’t think that the people who provide the content and the people who moderate the content are wrong in thinking that they should be accorded some respect by a site that would be worthless without that content.
Reddit has told them all to fuck off in a variety of ways for months.
At some point you gotta take the hint instead of trying to make peace with the abuser.
Yeah, I don’t think they’re saying that users aren’t important to Reddit; what they seem to wanna say is that Reddit doesn’t care whether or not users are important to them.
The only thing you can do at this point is quit, because Reddit will only budge when it’s too late for them.
I don’t see the point. If we’ve learned one thing already, it’s that the users must control the platform. And that can never happen with Reddit
Reddit can suck it, I’m not going back.
Yeah, they’ve already shown us that they don’t actually care about the communities, only the ad impressions.
I feel for the mods, both here and on Reddit. Disrespected by both users and admins, but doing the important work even if sometimes they come across as power-hungry or capricious.
Agreed.
It’s nice that they still have hope and still love their community enough to want to attempt to seek some sort of resolution, but imo reddit the company is never going to budge now. It’s personal for spez now, and the company is simply going to barrel on and ignore all these letters and everything. They’re committed to their stance now, and they’re going to simply wait it out, until all the opposing people have left/been kicked out and all that is left of reddit the community are those who either still support them or who don’t care. It’s sad, but imo the reddit as we knew it is dead, and it’s time to accept that and move on.
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These people invested so much time and effort into their communities, I understand why they are doing all this to keep them
Mod of /r/homeimprovement here. I don’t know that “keep” is the right word but we have built an amazing community over the years. The API changes rubbed us all the wrong way (as we all mod from third-party apps) but what really clinched it was the utter abhorrent treatment of us after we shut down. We are still shut down, and reddit continues to actively threaten UNPAID VOLUNTEERS. The free content and moderation is literally the only thing keeping reddit relevant. We are actively going to force reddit to replace us or backtrack. It will likely be the former, but at least we have made them work for it. It’s sad really…I love the community but I’m not going to continue to be free labor for a company that simply doesn’t give a single shit about us or their users.
r/homeimprovement was one of my favorite subs and a topic I hope takes off over here. Glad you all are sticking to your guns.
I hope it does too! This seems like a great place for the community to thrive. That said, I don’t think I have it in me to mod again (at least not now). It’s been…hard to say the least. But yeah, we are sticking it out until the end! I posted a “give it up for day 14” meme on our Discord today, lol.
EDIT: Oh, and thank you for the kudos on the community! We really do appreciate it!!
I want to go full lemmy but the interface/appearance is a real turn off with comment threads being visually hard to follow. What we need is RES for lemmy
I thought the same. But now I got used to it. Also I moved to liftoff app and things work great. Things will get better.
Same. On liftoff until Sync releases and then I’ll really have to decide which I like more. It might be hard choice though, liftoff is really good (in its early state) but Sync has the benefit of aggregating information and seeing what users want (and knowing that many want what Sync offered for Reddit on Lemmy)
Reddit doesn’t want third party apps. They will get more money with their official app, simple as that.
For reddit you are just a wallet full of money. Spez doesn’t see you in any other way, just walking money.
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Interesting how the first thing I felt when I read this was, “I hope Reddit doesn’t”.
Incredible how fast my fondness of Reddit went away in 1 week.
It’s a platform whose time to die has arrived. The corpos are getting their hands on it, and nothing punk can be done with it anymore.
Fuck corpo shit. Burn corpo shit.
My hope is that all this drama makes the IPO not happen.
My hope is that all this drama makes the IPO not happen.
Nah, it would be better if IPO happens and the company’s value evaporates overnight.
Probably wouldn’t happen, but one can dream.
never gonna happen
