Google Removes App That Helps People Boycott Pro-Israel Companies::NoThanks was temporarily suspended from the Google Play app store due to a line in its description speaking about Israel.

    • iopq@lemmy.world
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      9 months ago

      What I don’t understand, as someone who doesn’t support Hamas or Netanyahu, is why you would chant that.

      Like, where would Jews go? Is that actually a real solution? Only super old people actually came to Israel from another country, most of the Israelis don’t know any other home

      • Saxoboneless@lemmy.world
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        9 months ago

        Well for one, Jews and specifically Israelis don’t have to go anywhere for Palestine and Palestinians to be free?

        Like the slogan just does not at all necessarily imply what you’re imagining (or what the US congress claims) it does. That slogan’s been around longer than Hamas.

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          To be fair, we do say the same thing about “all lives matter.” An objectively true statement that can border on hate speech depending on context

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          Exactly, it’s the whole “black lives matter” vs “all lives matter” thing all over again.

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          You know the original slogan in Arabic? What slogan it’s translation of?

          min al-mayyeh lil-mayyeh / Filasṭīn ʿarabiyyeh (من المياه للمياه / فلسطين عربية ‘from the water to the water / Palestine [is] Arab’)

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          Literally 75% of Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza choose it as the explicit genocide option on a survey that Includes one state for two people as an option. This is a poll done by a Palestinian university in the west bank, claiming its Israeli propaganda would be pretty stupid. All the US congress did was assert to the public what the meaning is to a super majority of Palestinians in Palestine. The diaspora pushing a different narrative never speaks up when the crowds chant the Arabic version that ends in “Palestine will be Arab” (or “Palestine is Arab”).

          https://www.awrad.org/files/server/polls/polls2023/Public Opinion Poll - Gaza War 2023 - Tables of Results.pdf

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        Jesus christ, Israel is literally a British colony. Getting Jews out of Europe was exactly what the Nazis wanted.

        Zionism isn’t some centuries old thing; it’s based in British colonization tactics. It started in full force only around 70 years ago to serve British military interests in the region.

        The companies made are literally called “Colonization Commission” and ‘the Jewish Colonial Trust’

        Israel, EU, and the US should decolonize the region and return it to Palestine. Where they go is up to those governments to manage, because they started this. But that goes against their profit incentives, which is to keep the middle-east divided through war, keep oil cheap, and prevent them from uniting against the imperial core, no matter how many hundreds of thousands of civilians are killed in the process.

        People are being displaced and forced out of their homes by settlers and military right now. Fuck colonizers.

        The PFLP, the second largest Palestinian liberation group after Fatah, calls for a secular Palestinian state where Jews, Muslims, etc. will live together in peace. Modern Fatah even accepts a two-state solution (and they have every right not to). Only Hamas is mixing up Zionists with Jews, and that’s entirely because of Israel and the Imperial core’s constant oppression, displacement, and now genocide of the natives.

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        They chant that because it means something different depending on who says it. The Palestinians have been chanting this slogan for many years since the PLO times. The call was to unite the people to show unity between the people of gaza to west bank. However, when Hamas took power, the chant turned into something antisemitic. So you will hear both sides now, unite the people and wishes for terror.

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        9 months ago

        It’s a thought terminating clishe. It’s easy to avoid complex issues if you can just repeat a quick little chant to get out of critical thinking.

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        9 months ago

        Israel can’t and shouldn’t exist in the future.

        An ethnic religious state can never be free.

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        Many who chant it don’t even know what river or sea they are talking about without looking it up.

        And they don’t care what happens to the Jews. It’s a racist chant which is basically supporting genocide.

        It’s an idiotic phrase that only morons and racists would repeat. It’s unrealistic and doesn’t solve a damn thing. But of course the herd will repeat the catchy phrase because they have an excuse to be openly racist but still have a way of justifying it.

        There. I said it.

        And no, before these same idiots say otherwise: I am not happy with how Israel or the IDF is handling the current situation or the situation before October. Nor am I a supporter of hamas and their actions in early October; Israel just had their own 9/11, so of course they are going to react miltaryary, of course they fucking are, like every country on the planet would.

        This whole thing is like watching two unlikeable assholes having a boxing match. It’s basically boogie2899 Vs wingsofredemption but with a lot more death and destruction, so it’s not funny.

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      9 months ago

      Free Palestine from the river to the sea. 🇵🇸🇵🇸

      Debunking : “From the river to the sea” is a call to genocide.

      When Palestinians call for freedom from the river to the sea, they are calling for decolonization and the dismantling of this racist colonial entity which dominates their lives, and seek to replace it with a state that would not exist at the expense of the subjugation of others.

      This is hardly a new or radical position, such an entity was suggested by the Arab states as a counter-proposal to the 1947 partition plan. Naturally, this was rejected by the Zionists. That we barely ever hear about the offers that the Yishuv/Israel rejected should be an indicator of the nature of mainstream discussions on Palestine and the silencing of Palestinian voices. The Palestinian Liberation Organization also called for establishing a secular, democratic unitary state for all its citizens. Naturally, none of these proposals included genocide, ethnic cleansing or mass murder.

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        Debunking that Blog is really easy. All you need to do is listen to actual Palestinians in Palestine instead of anonymous blogs.

        Like a survey conducted by Palestine’s Birzeit University’s Arab World for Research & Development (AWRAD)

        Literally 75% of Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza choose it as the explicit genocide option on a survey that Includes one state for two people as an option. This is a poll done by a Palestinian university in the west bank after the start of the war, claiming its Israeli propaganda would be pretty stupid. All the US congress did was assert to the public what the meaning is to a super majority of Palestinians in Palestine. The diaspora pushing a different narrative never speaks up when the crowds chant the Arabic version that ends in “Palestine will be Arab” (or “Palestine is Arab”).

        https://www.awrad.org/files/server/polls/polls2023/Public Opinion Poll - Gaza War 2023 - Tables of Results.pdf

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                International groups like the UN and Amnesty International talk about ongoing genocide. It is Israel that is committing this genocide. What you speak of is also terrible and sad. But Israel chooses this path, not Palestinians. So long as a group of people remain harshly oppressed, without food, water, education, healthcare, infrastructure, jobs, freedom to travel, freedom from being caged in, having homes taken from them at gunpoint or by bombs, we will continue to see bloody resistance with asymmetrical reaction.

                Israeli quote from an open letter in Haaretz newspaper in 1967 right after the 6 Days War: “Our right to defend ourselves against annihilation does not grant us the right to oppress others. Conquest brings in its wake foreign rule. Foreign rule brings in its wake resistance. Resistance brings in its wake oppression. Oppression brings in its wake terrorism and counterterrorism. The victims of terrorism are usually innocent people. Holding onto the territories will turn us into a nation of murderers and murder victims. Let us leave the occupied territories now.”

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                  October the 7th was an act of genocide. It was the biggest single loss of life of Jewish people since the holocaust.

                  I’m not saying that Israel are handling things great either btw. But the term “to the river to the sea” is genocidal, and October the 7th was also genocidal

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      For all the people still in denial, that is a genocide slogan.

      All you need to do is listen to actual Palestinians in Palestine instead of anonymous blogs.

      Like a survey conducted by Palestine’s Birzeit University’s Arab World for Research & Development (AWRAD)

      Literally 75% of Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza choose it as the explicit genocide option on a survey that Includes one state for two people as an option. This is a poll done by a Palestinian university in the west bank after the start of the war, claiming its Israeli propaganda would be pretty stupid. All the US congress did was assert to the public what the meaning is to a super majority of Palestinians in Palestine. The diaspora pushing a different narrative never speaks up when the crowds chant the Arabic version that ends in “Palestine will be Arab” (or “Palestine is Arab”).

      https://www.awrad.org/files/server/polls/polls2023/Public Opinion Poll - Gaza War 2023 - Tables of Results.pdf