Christian has decided to squeeze Apollo again for more money, besides the wallpapers and asking people to decline their prorated refund. Christian additionally forced a pop up ad advertising this plushie.

This is just exposing to more people the greediness that Christian has tapped into recently. Recall that previously, Christian forced daily pop up ads to paid pro users to get them to subscribe to ultra, which was originally stated to only be for notifications since it required a server, but now had all new features attached to it, even very simple local features. Reddit did him dirty, but to be honest, he may have had it coming. He previously disabled ultra access to Jailbroken devices as well, even if they were valid paid users. Christian also didn’t provide refunds to lifetime users who bought it before all the API stuff. Speaking of that, does anyone remember how instead of stating the price was increasing (which happened all the time) he instead said it was “going on sale at the old price”? Kinda misleading.

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    I can’t get behind this narrative. Honestly, how else do you market this product? On Twitter? On Facebook? Mastodon maybe?

    Look, he’s updating an app that hasn’t been operational in months… nobody who still has that app has any illusions of it coming back. What do they expect when they open that app?

    I won’t buy a plushie, since I don’t have a place for it, but I had many fond years using Apollo, and wouldn’t mind buying something like this at all, and I would have never known otherwise (except for people complaining about it online.)

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      This is where I am. I don’t get the narrative of Darth Christian abusing the populace. He’s an independent gig worker marketing his skills and products.

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        He’s a millionaire who made those millions from using Reddits free API. Now he’s just grifting.

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            He has said that he made millions over the years from Apollo. I don’t bookmark every comment he ever makes.

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                https://www.businessinsider.com/reddit-ceo-app-founders-apollo-riff-made-millions-using-api-2023-6

                Apollo’s Selig did not immediately respond to Insider’s request for comment regarding the “millions” Huffman claims he has made. But when reached The Verge reached out to him for comment, he did not deny the claim.

                Selig has said that Apollo has around 50,000 yearly subscribers that pay around $10 per year.

                Those yearly subscribers alone bring in half a mill a year.

                When someone asks you to confirm that you’ve made millions of dollars and you don’t deny it, it’s generally because it’s true.

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                  Using your logic, if I sell lemonade at a stand for $1 a glass, and sell 1000 glasses, I’ve made $1000. Regardless of how much it costs to make the lemonade, the cost of the stand, the cost of the property the stand is on.

                  Are you intentionally ignoring the cost of developing and running the app? Or did you assume things like servers, bandwidth, licenses and more were all free?

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                    His servers etc aren’t going to cost much because he’s not doing any of the heavy lifting. His app just uses reddits API. He’s not storing any content from the API. He’s not recording upvotes. He’s not hosting anything from there. At most he has a server for his paying customers account details. He. Isn’t. Serving. The. Reddit. Traffic. Bandwidth doesn’t come into it, nor do servers. Licenses? What licenses? There is no cost of “running” the app. You’re talking like someone that has absolutely no idea how apps work. None of the traffic from Apollo runs through Christians servers. It’s all between the customers phone and reddits servers.

                    If you’re taking in a minimum of $500k a year making a reddit app, you’re making minimum $490k profit a year from that.

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        Ah… so unofficial installations of an old app got a notification that was only intended for people who had a non-functional version of the app, because that’s what the official update was set as? The audacity!

        In all seriousness, that’s like saying someone with a pirated copy of a game having a bug and complaining about it to the one who runs the server is justified. Actually, not even a bug, just a regular notification… that only notifies you after you open the app……

        You see how thin this argument is, surely?

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      The “product” is an attempt to get people who feel sad to give him more money. What other app tries sells plushies of its logo?

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        Many sell merch. For example, I play an idle game called Melvor Idle that routinely sells plushies of in game pets.

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        And you’re saying that that’s unethical because…?

        I mean think about it. Why does any company sell merch? Is it unethical for them to sell it? Why or why not?

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          It’s not inherently unethical to sell merch. It’s however apparent to me that this seems to be a cash grab. The app died months ago. This is further apparent to me when acknowledging the greediness Christian has shown before. It is unethical to try and use your already dead app to try and gain even more money by selling a low-effort plushie.