• sebinspace@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Well yeah, even if they aren’t good at it and are of hypocritical about it, appearing to believe the “what happens on iPhone stays on iPhone” philosophy is important to them.

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      I wouldn’t say they’re hypocritical. I was in complete shock that they actually scrapped their iPhone scanning plans and now offer E2E for most of iCloud. They aren’t perfect but they definitely are better than most companies

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        1 year ago

        Yeaaaaah maybe read up on some of the E2E stuff. Someone else at the top of this post posted a link to how it works.

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          It’s generally a question about what’s best for the user, your general user would likely be more mad losing all their messages because they forgot their password then they are calmed by the fact that no one else can read the data. Same for photos and files, however for sensitive categories such as health and passwords they are always end to end encrypted as it’s determined it’s worse for anyone else to get that data then it is for the user to lose it.

          For anyone that truly cares to have complete encryption there is advanced data protection but for the general users the defaults are a good balance between security and ease of use.

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            1 year ago

            Yeah, all of that is true. But people who buy iPhones and assume, because the marketing said so, that they’re perfectly secure are worryingly ignorant.

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          Yeah but his point stands. Here’s the summary:

          • If you’re syncing iMessages via iCloud but don’t use iCloud backup without Advanced Data Protection, it’s E2E
          • If you have iCloud backup enabled without Advanced Data Protection enabled, iMessage isn’t E2E encrypted
          • If you have Advanced Data Protection turned on for iCloud and you’re using iCloud backup, iMessage is E2E encrypted however you look at it.

          It’s generally good practice to not use iCloud backups but rather back it up yourself, however, most people don’t care enough.