in my lifetime.
What a fucking arsehole. I’m 53, so the UK joined with a 74% yes vote. And left again on a fucking close vote. Within my lifetime.
Based on that history, what the fuck right does anyone have to predict that far in the future. It is just arrogance. And has 0 relation to democracy.
If you fail to see the point I was making.
It is because you choose to.
Agreed. Most of us really do not think about this shit as often as we should. I know I am guilty of assuming he when typing. I know because I make an effort not to be. And notice how often I need to correct text. Being older than many developers. I just grew up with the assumptions. So like many my age needed my attention drawn to the societal indoctrination.
People politely pointing it out is important. As is people volunteering to help correct older documentation.
Sounds a lot like right wing we arrest rich and poor for sleeping under the bridge crap.
Back in the 80s when gay men showing affection in public could lead to inciting riot charges. Many anti-gay groups made the same claim that were equal in not being able to kiss other men in public.
It’s a rather pathetic straw man.
Exactly. Other points worth remembering. Tory voters are more likely to be retired or otherwise wealthy enough to spare time.
Whereas, labour voters are more likely to have multiple or 0-hour contract jobs. Meaning the press push, this is a forgone conclusion. It is much more likely to reduce Labour turnout than Tory.
Add younger voters tend to have lower turnout. And the shy Tory history. This may still be a weak labour win, or even a Tory minority win.
Go vote tomorrow. I’d also suggest vote tactically. If in an area where it’s practical. But that is your choice.
As it is, voting Tory. If that is your wish. Please have fun and get very drunk tonight ;)
I’d place Sunak Johnson and Mogg above her. But she is high up the list.
I can see Mogg being a huge part of reforming the Tories as more right wing post a lost election. So losing his seat limits any thoughts of leadership.
Well his seat is coastal. So if he wins again. Its possible. Atm its close polling wise but labour is predicted to win.
If they vote the twonk in again. A forced independence movement may be the best solution.
Not sure about biological reasons. Its possible I spose but without more medical knowledge. In not sure how removing / changing organs as they grow developmentally effects the final outcome.
The argument has always been about the maturity of the candidate. And the idea that surgery is not practically reversible. Vs the mental harm of growing up in a body that dose not match your perceived gender.
But I have to wonder. As In the UK and I am sure the US hormone blockers are also being attacked with often questionable medical evidence as to the harm the may do when used on developing teenagers.
Given In the UK it is definatly not legal for anyone under the age of consent to have gender reasignment surgery. The current attacks seem to be aimed at making it impossible for that surgery to achive its best success once it is legal.
Warning long left of centre rant. TLDR = Don’t Read my waffle if you don’t want to.
Kinnock added that if Labour was overly cautious in government, it would play into Reform’s narrative that there was little difference between the two main parties.
Unfortunately that seems to be a losing battle. Caution in spending leads to lack of difference between the right wing.
Spending of any form leads to attacks from the right and centre as irresponsible.
And both sides of that debate have a point. The issue is their points are weighed with irrelevant attacks. Labours current right of centre fiscal ideals are still backed by more emotional responsibility to citizens. Then the Tory robber barrons currently forming the real right.
And Spending dose not need too be irresponsible. Even when money is short. It can be slow and built around investment. IE investing in utilities housing etc that will return funding to the government.
Unfortunately that is where the rights insincerity in attacks show the worst. Any investment that has th oppertunity to raise money is attacked by the right wing media as inefficiencies etc.
Even the tories own figures suggest 7.5% Inefficency is all the difference between government owned vs privrate, and while that has no real evidence at all to back it up. Dose anyone think they have seen a 7.5% improvement in services or cost from privrate providers of monopoly style utilities. Of course not. No privrate corperation is going to be interested in running such utilities etc based on a 7.5% profit.
It stuns me that the tory attack on social housing has not been more of a point over the last 10 years. They made an open choice to force social housing to raise prices so it did not compete with privrate. Meaning they increased their own wellfare budget hugly. While allowing/creating the housing cost crisis we have now.
Its insane how irresponsible the tories have been. Its hard to honestly think moves like that are not intentional to limit the moves any left of centre government can make.
Not disagreeing. More devils advocate.
But are you basically saying if your home is attacked by another nation. One much larger and using draft to fill the ranks of attackers.
You are happy to allow your leader to fail to convince people to save your and your family/childrens lives.
Because at the end of it. That is why many folks support draft for a nation under attack.
I personally always think it is best as a last resort. Trained full time pros are genrally better at the job. But in an attack like this the amount of work needed to build and manage defences needs a huge labour force. Even modern tech warfare needs huge labour.
It is the idea that everyone needs the actions of these people to survive. That makes the vast majority express views like Ops original comment.
Pretty sure its in the deal as a trap. IE if any other data exists and he dosent destroy it. If it comes out his plea deal is invalid and he can be arrested and tried.
disability
Yep. But honestly the Tories are skilled at this shit. Labours lead has way more to do with hatred of the Tories. Then hope/love for labours offering. While the polls still have a large number of undecided responses.
The Tories know full well they only need dislike for labour or stammer to at the least leave labour with a weak majority maybe even change to a coalition government.
And while ill say the Tories are worse off for partners in the event that a coalition is needed. A Labour Lib Dem or less likely Labour SNP gov is not going to be hugely popular.
While the Tories turning things around with some last min bacon sandwich like crap is very doable. Fighting for a weak gov where they can take advantage on Labours infighting is likely the path they see ahead.
spinning the take that this is a vote against the Tories not a vote for Labour
far from a false claim.
Agreed. But its not about starmer being good. Its about being less bad then the Tories.
FPTP is an utter fuck over of an electoral system. That leaves very few places where voting 3rd party or even not voting is not a vote for Tory rule.
Its unpleasant but a simple fact that evil is quantifiable. When your choice is limited via the voting system. Refusing to vote for the lesser of 2 evils basically means you support goes to the greater.
I’m just doing it with more frustration than ever before
Pretty sure that represents the labour lead atm. Def folks wanting to vote against tories rather then for labour. Unfortunately it also leave the Tories with an open attack vector. They just need to time the right attack to dramatically split the left vote in Lab seats where they are still 2nd.
They also tend to assume anyone with lower language skills are stupid.
Because they lack the ability to adapt to more varied information gathering methods.
It is one I respect. The written English language is so filled with contradictions keeping track is impressive.
But judging people for not doing so. Is a bit like me as a Retired Software engineer judging folks who fail to understand C++ etc. It says more about my inability to recognise peoples use then the person I am judging.
I agree, although the whole my lifetime is fucking arrogant and anti-democratic considering how close the vote was.
What worries me more is failing to have any real left of centre opposition.
This will lead to the right thinking they are safe to head far further right.
While failing to give the public any hope of real change. So 4 to 5 years from now. What sort of choice will we have. With polling showing Tory and reform with approx 36% between them. And any real left wing opinion being irrelevant in current polling due to 0 main party representation. The centre is moving pretty far right in general.
But then I said much the same in my late 20s prior to the 97 election. And little has convinced me I was wrong. So with any luck. My health means I won’t see the shithole we end up with.