You’re saying I’m not clearly indicating, otherwise why would I have to tell them? In all seriousness, though, it only happened a couple of times in my life, its not an ongoing thing. If they cannot pick up on me being unhappy with the conversation, then so be it, life goes on…plus I wouldn’t want to offend anyone directly, especially not someone who is a bit off

That’s not what I see at all, there are people I barely knew that would tell me about absolute absurd events happening to close friends or relatives of them, and its clear they just need the attention, and to these people I can only offer Yups, Dangs, and Yeah that’s crazies

I dont know the ones you linked, but I bought these a couple of months back and am very satisfied:

Linsoul KZ ZSN Pro Dual Driver

I do own sennheiser hd25 and beyerdynamic 770 for reference and have had many 30-70 euro in ears over the years.

At 21 euro they are absolutely amazing.