I was talking with a sysadmin once who intentionally removed nano and emacs from any system he was granted access to. His explanation was “if they can’t use vim I don’t want them on my machines”
There’s a sysadmin at my place who does exactly that. He’s kind of an idiot too.
As a VIM user, I don’t want you using VIM on my system unless you know how to use it. I don’t want you borking fstab or the passwd file or some other important config because you don’t know how to quit without saving.
Lol love this.
Shocked
If a sysadmin expected me to use vim for every minor config tweak, I wouldn’t want to be on their machines either.
Sounds like it works then.
Once you get the hang of it it’s just so much quicker for small and big tasks.
Check out vim adventures:
Or just install vimtutor and try around. The basics are pretty simple, and the more advanced stuff infinitely helpful.
and the more advanced stuff infinitely helpful.
Thanks, no. At that point i use sed, grep or a GUI editor.
Why? Nano doesn’t need training, and even for config the engineers shouldnt be able to impact production without review. Sysadmin needs to retire
I don’t find nano any easier for minor tweaks than vim
A vim user finding nano too difficult? Impressive.
Brilliant! I don’t entirely disagree with that. I had vim forced on me at my old job, including actual vi on some of the more ancient systems. I got so used to it that I don’t really know how to use nano and definitely not emacs.
I never understood what the big deal was. Write. Quit. If you can’t remember that ‘w’ means write and ‘q’ means quit, I don’t know how else to help. Add in some decent options in your vimrc and it is pretty comfortable. I am in no way some guru who knows every shortcut and fancy command out there, but I like using it and it is the first thing I install on a new system.
I am not one to judge what text editor, OS, phone, car, or computer you like. You do you. If I was a sysadmin that had to deal with people who really shouldn’t be on those systems and that was an easy way to discourage people from screwing with it, then hell yeah.
Knowing VIM does not make one a better sys-admin. You can be an idiot, and still know how to drive Vi/Vim. There is FAR FAR FAR more to managing an OS and than that. If you think requiring VIM is enough to keep unknowledgeable people away from servers, you are probably the one who shouldn’t be managing servers.
In the world of text editors, VIM, specifically NeoVim is the shining light. Standing at the pinnacle of creation at a height that can only be reached by zealous emacs users.
They have a learning curve through. Nano is obviously easier, but it’s also just a basic editor.
:x
As an Emacs user, Neovim was like chains. Shackles.
We need to :q! this war for good.
Those who don’t write history to drive are destined to repeat it.
What about Micro users 🥲
nanofor editing config files,emacsif I’m writing code…kwriteorjoplinif I need a scratch pad or to share notes between devices respectivelyWhere’s vscode? Lol
There’s several GB of it sitting in my home directory, which unfortunately my admin limits to several GB, so now my vim search buffer doesn’t update anymore until I delete code’s cache again.
Nedit - was a great simple editor i discovered on SGI IRIX, still use it today. Also, emacs is in a class of itself, it’s more OS than text editor 🤣
As a nano user, I fully agree.
Just use notepad++ with wine like any normal person do
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I wish I could just edit text files as sudo with the default gnome text editor instead.
Vim user here. I still can’t find the value of c to the power of x in nano. Does anyone have the answer?
Jesus, why can’t people just expose their drives to cosmic radiation and have it switch the bits in the file? So much time wasted writing useless editors.
Of course, Rebecca* has a shortcut for that, too.
*GBoard decided that was the right word when I swiped ‘Emacs’. It is now formerly-known-as-Emacs’ new name.
I ONLY EDIT TEXT BY TOGGLING OUT ASCII CODES ON A ROW OF SWITCHES DIRECTLY CONNECTED TO MY PARALLEL PORT\n
This guy did it back in the 80s:
https://archive.org/details/Mondo.2000.Issue.04.1991/page/n33/mode/2up?view=theater
Long live to emacs!
