• AItoothbrush@lemmy.zip
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    1 year ago

    Oh really? Maybe not moving 2,5 tons of metal and battery isnt a good idea? Maybe bikes were always a better mode of transport? I have a feeling that this was pretty obvious.

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    This reads like an advertisement. Not saying it is. But it does.

    Edit: Oh, AAP (Australian Associated Press)! Then it’s definitely an advertisement.

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      Proponents have been fought tooth and nail since electric vehicles were invented, and it was the public who was gaslighted- not they. Why try to change the minds of those who know they are right, when you can just change the minds of people not to listen to them…

      “You can fool some people all of the time, and all people some of the time, but you can not fool all people all of the time.”

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      No matter how you feel about them, when your mate shows you his new electric car you still greet him with a request for a pint of semi skimmed.

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      For people with disabilities and chronic injuries, yes they are better and provides accessibility. Don’t forget that people with disabilities exist in this universe too.

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      Less effort? I don’t know where environmentalists got the idea that the average guy is a cross fit three time gold medalist, most people want effortless traversal

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          Seriously, and cycling isn’t really even that strenuous. Like the fact that people actually believe this makes it all the more clear why obesity rates are sky high. Like do really people not understand how bodies work?

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            It doesn’t look like you do if you’re so oblivious that people with disabilities would benefit with something like this.

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              That’s where other means of public transport such as transit, trains, and buses fill in— all things that help reduce carbon emissions as well. Larger sidewalks too. What we need are options.

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          easier to steal too, which why prefer folded bike so I can take it to my office instead of parking it outside for easy theft

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            I would love to have a Brompton or something like that for the same reason. Or easier to take it to other cities to ride.

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          It also makes you less fat, and smarter. Yes, exercise actually makes you smarter. Maybe we should push people towards exercising, and let them discover bikes by themselves?

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            I’m a cyclist myself and a few members of my family went out and bought ebikes before they would even go on casual kid friendly rides with me on their traditional bikes. While I appreciate the ebike making people more confident biking I feel like the people I know with ebikes could have literally just used a traditional bike and in a month they wouldn’t find it hard.

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              People with disabilities would benefit. We get it. You don’t approve of them having something that could possibly benefit them.

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                I didn’t mention people with disabilities. I’m very pro people with disabilities buying and using ebikes. What I am attempting to get across is that a lot of people would do great with trying to cycle before dropping big money on an ebike.

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            Right so everyone with chronic injuries are just too stupid to work it out! Of course. So simple! /s

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          It’s funny people are forgetting that when they’re the main topic of the article

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        Or that people with disabilities exist and probably benefit from e-bikes too.

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    I did the math once for my own commute, on my e-bike and with my electric car, and found that while the electric car uses only 20% of the energy that an average gas-powered car would, the bike uses just 1%. My bike, on my route (both directions averaged together) got 2,200 mpge.

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    I think big cars and SUV should be banned.everyone should use a moped or a bike but 9-5s pretending to be rich will hate it.

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        SUVs have lower cargo capacity than more fuel efficient vans, and often even less than cars like old Foresters. They 100% serve no purpose, but people have been tricked in to believing this lie about cargo capacity.

        Even trucks today have lower cargo capacity than vans, while also having worse fuel efficiency.

        But lets for s second assume this lie is true. Why not require a commercial license for any vehicle built on a truck frame? Prove you need it and you could get an exception.

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    Great. All technologies that bring down CO2 emissions are needed.

    As long as people get rid of their dino juice cars, who cares.

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    Not sure what electric cars has to do with this topic. But I guess someone wanted to start a fight between car people and non car people going by the extreme cross posting.

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    I have heard this for years now. This all fine. I also have an E-Bike. I really love using it. But I live in central Europe. Weather is really shitty here from October-March. I use my car then. And no, clothing for biking in bad weather is not an option for me. I really can’t be bothered to change clothes on my job. I just won’t do that.

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    Seems like a no brainer! And especially useful in dense cities where you don’t want to be stuck idling in a car.

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      Ok but emergency vehicles, supply and delivery vehicles, care cars should not get fucked please. These are lifelines. You’re still benefiting in some way on oil and a vehicle even if you’re not the one driving it.

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    Watched a YouTube about electric vs gas scooters in Taiwan 🇹🇼. Apparently it’s like 6 scooters for every 10 people, crazy!

    But the uptake of electric scooters wasn’t as much as they thought, but a lot of complaints were around “cost”, “parking” and “weight”

    Sounds like an electric bicycle would solve all those issues over an electric scooter 🛵

    Especially for the poorer, high 2 wheel usage nations, like Vietnam or India.

    Just have to pedal a bit! 😉

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    this and how the urbanists fuck up cities, you don’t want to drive a car, for sure. be it electric. two time this week, train were delayed, adding a wopping 1h30 to my commute.

    I more than ever for renewal and common transportation but damn, dear these semi-public companies suck!

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        I see more concrete than ever, I see more only-one way than ever which extend your traffic time and if you miss your exit or street, you are screwed and goog to do a full consuming/polluting detour to reach your destination. I don’t mind if commute were performant, not ugly or dystopian.

        I don’t see much place for grass/trees etc.

        Near my house, they destroyed an old fabric to build fucking cheap soul less apartments. They are literally building new “blocks” on landfields while there’s plenty of free apartment in the city. fucking real-estate mafia and mayor’s corruption.

        I am from old Europe and we used to have nice architecture and city organization.