Pope Francis on Saturday forcibly removed the bishop of Tyler, Texas, a firebrand conservative prelate active on social media who has been a fierce critic of the pontiff and has come to symbolize the polarization within the U.S. Catholic hierarchy.

A one-line statement from the Vatican said Francis had “relieved” Bishop Joseph Strickland of the pastoral governance of Tyler and appointed the bishop of Austin as the temporary administrator.

Strickland, 65, has emerged as a leading critic of Francis, accusing him in a tweet earlier this year of “undermining the deposit of faith.” He has been particularly critical of Francis’ recent meeting on the future of the Catholic Church during which hot-button issues were discussed, including ways to better welcome LGBTQ+ Catholics.

Earlier this year, the Vatican sent in investigators to look into his governance of the diocese, amid reports that priests and laypeople in Tyler had complained and that he was making unorthodox claims.

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      He will 100% use this to start a new church to siphon funds from his snowflake congregation

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        Wouldn’t doing that literally be considered heresy? That doesn’t really mean much in the modern day I suppose, but if he actually believes all the Catholic stuff (which I imagine he might, to have gotten that high a rank in it in the first place?), then potentially getting excommunicated is probably not something he would want.

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          I’d be curious if there are actual numbers out there, but a number of ex-Catholics I know have deemed Francis the antipope and have latched onto some random local evangelical church that aligns with their political values. I could definitely see this guy jumping on board with that.

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          That chuckle fuck would probably get off on it because it would make the liberals react in any way.

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        Tin foil hat

        I read some Italian news story on how basically all the bishops at the vatican are playing politics and slow rolling any real progress on kicking out the diddlers. Probably trying to save the sanctity of the church, but mostly billions in damages paid out to victims.

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    Wait but wasn’t a dogma that the word of the Pope IS the word of God? So that guy is an heretic and should be burnt at the stake

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      There’s a heresy called sedevacantism that basically believes the last few Popes don’t count because they’ve taken positions that the real Pope would never take.

      They don’t do the burning at the stake bit anymore though.

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        Some people are lucky that today’s popes don’t act like the popes of the olden days.

        BTW, which one was the last true Pope in theory eyes? I bet it’s the fascist one

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          I think most of them think the last real pope was Pius XII, and yeah he was the guy who signed the Reichskonkordat with the Nazis, which required priests in Germany to take an oath of loyalty to the German Reich.

          He actually did that as Secretary of State before he became pope, on behalf of the previous pope, so they were both fash.

          The reason sedevacantists dislike his successor, John XXIII, is that they are really upset about the Second Vatican Council introducing ideas like “the beneficial nature of diversity” and “concern for secular human values.” That’s the moment when they think the church went off the rails.

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          Likely whichever one suits their personal world view of bigotry and fascism.

          Yes, that one that supported the Nazi’s in WWII and gave the names and addresses of Jews to the gestapo.

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    We have an expression in Québec for people who either:

    1- Defend someone else’s interests with more fervor than the other person themselves.

    2- To have extremist values, thoughts or actions.

    The expression is “Être plus catholique que le pape.” Or to be more Catholic than the pope himself.

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      In Italian we say “more royalist than the king”. Btw, the Pope was criticized even by Italian politicians because “they know better” what the Catholic faith should be like. And I’m not referring to some minor party, but to the very backbone of the current government. It seems like the Pope is intentionally trying to mess up their whole electoral campaign based on tradicional family and morality.

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        Not very surprising considering the current government is far right and they always believe they know better than anyone else.

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          Right… but there’s a capital sin for this called “pride”, being religious they should realize their wrongdoing.

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      Oh this guy definitely thinks himself the most holy Catholic person to ever live. He is light years away from the papacy in terms of ever being Pope, but definitely casually suggests to his followers that HE some random fuck in Texas would be a better Pope than the actual Pope

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    The modern church is the shell of the institution it once was. Which is a good thing. Let’s make it even less relevant than it already is.

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      The goal isn’t to make it hollow, the goal is to shrink the size proportional to honest participation, so that it doesn’t have an outsized influence on the general population.

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      If it was the whole turtle they would have burned the pedo-, excuse me, pries-cough cough child fucker at the stake for blasphemy.

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    Despite the evilness of the Catholic church as a whole, I’ve got to say I kinda like Pope Francis. Too bad the majority of religious leaders aren’t more like him.

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      He still protected sexual abusers like Cardinal McCarrick. He’s handled the PR of sexual abuse than his predecessors, but he hasn’t excommunicated a single abuser or enabler. He hasn’t turned any records over to law enforcement.

      Religious leaders need better role models than the pope.

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      Don’t forget he basically said Charlie Hebdo had it coming.

      Dude’s still an ass, he’s just a comparatively smaller ass than his predecessors.

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      He’s no saint, though.

      What you’re mentioning is the equivalent of “huh, this pope gives us 10 fewer kicks in the nuts per day than the previous popes. I kinda like him!”

      He wants to welcome lgbt people in the church? The reaction shouldn’t be “oh he’s so good!” It should be “about damn time, fuckers!”

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    From the article:

    “This is total war,” Matt wrote on X, formerly Twitter. “Francis is a clear and present danger not only to Catholics the world over but also to the whole world itself.”

    Matt is the editor of a traditionalist newspaper. That guy needs to touch grass. How stupid can a person be?

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        My brother in Happy Holidays, we are the winners. The only thing I am concerned about is whether there will be enough popcorn kernels available for us all. I’ve stocked up, almost 69 stones worth.

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      Yes Matt, the 86 years old dude without any power preaching about peace on another continent is very dangerous./s

      Also, I somehow have a feeling that he doesn’t have the same opinion on Putin, who is actually a danger to the whole world.

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    I don’t get how you can be ‘too progressive’. Surely progress is a good thing, no? If you’re against progress, you’re in favor of things remaining as they are or getting worse. To me, that’s just being a cunt.

    I guess what I’m saying is, “Pope removes bishop for being too much of a cunt” would’ve been a good headline also.

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      Many people worked hard within the current hierarchy or system to attain power. They essentially invested their time, resource or energy for this gain over a lifetime. Progressives want change to the existing power heirarchies and systems. That change nullifies the lifetime investment. That’s why there is such institutional resistance to progressives.

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    Tyler TX is also home to Idiot Child Louie Gohmert. There are churches and banks on every corner, and every time there’s new construction there’s a 50% chance it’s either a church or a bank.