I swear I’d not seen the term “christofascism” until this year. It’s an apt term for all the talk about the new speaker of the house, rolling back of Roe v Wade, banning books and increased persecution of LGBT+ rights…

But if I was Christ I’d be pretty darn upset right now. I talk about love and tolerance and peace and you’re going to use my name to make shitty, power grabbing, political, oppressive moves? The fuckin audacity. I’d be flipping tables and calling out the hypocrites.

I know it’s a conversation as old as time. I also don’t believe Christian’s should be able to point at it and say “yeh but that’s not MY Jesus.” Doesn’t fucking matter, they’re identifying as a You so if You don’t do something about it then it’s as good as doin it yourself.

Sigh.

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    You are right. Real Christianity is practically the opposite of fascism. But anyone can just call themselves Christian and we can’t do anything about it.

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      I’m not even sure I like real Christianity, but I would like the opportunity to see it and decide for myself. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen it!

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    You might be interested in “The Law of Love and the Law of Violence” by Tolstoy. He makes the same argument, that most Christians are terrible at following the actual teachings of Christ.

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      Why give a flying fuck to follow such when forgiveness, as a protestant, is a forever freebie if you ask but once and get that death promise.

      Alternatively you can simply accept that the mouth runner will rape your kids and that’s just fine.

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    Well it is an oxymoron. At least in the way people use the term. Say someone said someone was an “anarchocommunist”. The person wouldn’t think they are “perfectly Marx” or “perfectly anarchist” because then that wouldn’t be the term. I wouldn’t even give Paul the pass on this, I doubt any ruler good or bad can say they stay true to the lord who made his stance on government clear.

    Though I disagree with him, in the end he’s probably going to end up more normal than people make him out to be.

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    Christianity isn’t a book or a simple code of ethics, it is an evolving culture composed of living individuals and historical actions. It’s also composed of subcultures, many contradictory. Saying “Christians should be this” isn’t very useful, Christianity is what it is, and it’s up to Christians to determine where it goes.

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    “If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?”

    – 1 John 4:20 (King James Version)

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      I fucking hate the King James version so much. I grew up with NRSE and it’s like “why are you still using this archaic shit?”

      Here’s the same passage in language normal people can understand:

      Those who say, “I love God,” and hate a brother or sister are liars, for those who do not love a brother or sister, whom they have seen, cannot love God, whom they have not seen.

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        Generational thing, maybe? Plus conservative churches love holding onto archaic customs, like the old KJV translation.

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        There are more edits to the new testament than there are letters. I just cannot consider any sense of any canonic status to entire set of make-shit-up books.

        If it’s anything I guarentee it isn’t a prediction. It’s a fucking plan.

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    they’re identifying as a You so if You don’t do something about it then it’s as good as doin it yourself.

    That’s an interesting idea. Would you apply this rule evenly across all groups, or only in special cases?

    To give an example, the rate of people with Tourette Syndrome is around 0.5% (less than 1 in 200). The rate of people who fake Tourettes is much higher.
    Applying your rule, if a person with Tourettes doesn’t speak up against the larger group of people faking Tourettes, is that as bad as them faking Tourettes themselves?

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      I’m not sure. Maybe the difference is that Christianity is something you choose to align with, Tourette’s is a medical issue.