Taps big brain: get rid of the kids and no more child road deaths.
But often the people buying huge trucks are also against abortion
Well if you abort the fetuses then there’s no children to run over with your F150.
On a completely unrelated note, I was scrolling down the article and saw a big X and clicked it thinking it was a popup or ad and hit it out of habit, but it was actually the embedded tweet.
Another reason why the X rebrand is dumb.
When I was a courier, I would plan my route to avoid school zones. In those occasions when I did have to travel past a school between the hours of 2:30 and 4:00pm, I would be a model driver, a safe and legal speed and always with an eye out for unpredictable pedestrians and other road users.
The biggest hazard at that time of day were the parents who were either picking up their little turds, or parents on the way to a different school speeding through school zones because they had one too many day drinks and lost track of time.
I noticed that the students who walked to and from school by themselves or with an older sibling were always careful, road smart and safe.
There’s a school zone on my way home with a slow vehicles lane. I always stay in the “fast” lane and do the speed limit. It pisses people off, regularly attract a colourful reaction. People who speed through school zones are the scummiest of the scum out there
“We could reduce the speed limits for cars to be closer to the average speeds of walking (6 kilometres per hour”
Geezus christ. I’m guessing the author has no idea what it’s like to be a parent.
Here’s a hint: kids need to go places. Public transport cannot get you to those places. Also, parents need to work (both of them) or else the kids don’t eat. As a parent I’m flat out busy from sunrise to midnight, and they want me to take the 1 hour I spend commuting each day and expand it to five hours. That doesn’t work:
- get the three year old ready for school (this can be ten minutes or an hour, so you better start getting ready an hour before you need to leave)
- walk to the bus stop (five minutes for me, but with a two year old… twenty minutes, not necessarily walking but you need to allow for that much time which means you’ll spend a lot of it waiting at the bus stop)
- bus to daycare, 20 minutes as it winds through the suburbs
- drop the kid off at daycare, then wait for the next bus (30 minutes later)
- bus out of the suburbs onto the main bus line (another 20 minutes meandering through suburbs)
- finally, on the main bus line to the CBD (20 minutes)
- then 15 minutes waiting for a bus out of the CBD towards where I work
- then 15 minutes on that bus
Unfortunately… you can’t get a 3 year old to eat breakfast at 5am and the childcare centre won’t let you drop them off at 6am either. So that schedule means starting at work at around 10:30am. Ouch.
And in order to get home in time for the kid two have dinner without throwing a tantrum… I’d probably need to leave work at 2pm.
Sorry but it’s just not possible to work 3 hours a day and pay a mortgage/put food on the table/etc.
Would you support public transport improvements?
The user here is a known car-brained troll. They have a long history of opposing better urban planning.
I had a scroll through their history and couldn’t really find any evidence of trolling - but I might not have gone back far enough. Have you got any examples of them trolling you could point us at?
Your list of barriers to not using a car are all a result of poor urban planning which is rife in the majority of our cities. If we had stopped the sprawl 30 years ago then car dependence could have been mitigated.
Guess I’m one of the lucky ones in that I can walk kids to school and daycare (less than 1km) then cycle to work easily (less than 10km).
Jesus Christ are you being deliberately obstinate here, or are you just that thick?
Wait, what? They are absolutely right.
No they’re not. They are arguing against a straw man so ridiculous it’s more of a small sad-looking pile of straw. And they know it, too; they’re a regular car-brained troll in this community, and they’ve had it pointed out to them why their arguments are nonsense many times before.
carbrains are real but this user isn’t one
it’s obvious that the real problem is that Melbourne’s buses and roads are shit, not that people are driving at normal car speeds.
lowering speed limits are a good thing but really low speeds like 6km/h only belong in carparks and high pedestrian areas.
20km/h should be the norm for areas like shopping streets.
Anyway the real problem is that we have designed our car moving roads to be right in the centre or population centres, and that our buses are really fucking horribly scheduled and operated. Even our 90x “smartbus” high frequency lines have really shit 20m or worse frequency sometimes, and off peak frequency is generally shit on any route, even rail.
It would be nice if 2 people waiting at a crosswalk got priority over 1 person in a car, but that’s not going to happen with the primitive “heavy moving box strong” logic in our brains, get real
but really low speeds like 6km/h only belong in carparks and high pedestrian areas.
20km/h should be the norm for areas like shopping streets
Absolutely. Which is why that nobody is saying 6 km/h should be the norm. The article said closer to. With current speed limits normally being 60 km/h, and you’re extremely lucky if you can get it reduced to 40 km/h, their “closer to” is pretty obviously not saying it should be 6 km/h. They’re talking about 30 km/h on local residential streets.
fwiw this user definitely is car-brained. It’s not just this one comment. They have a long history of opposing improvements to our cities and defending motornormativity.
They are arguing against a straw man so ridiculous it’s more of a small sad-looking pile of straw.
What is the “straw man” in their argument? Be specific.
No, I won’t. Because you’re smart enough to figure it out yourself. The only barrier to figuring it out is a deliberate obstinance and opposition to better urban planning.
If I knew what the fuck was going on in your brain when you said something, I wouldn’t have to ask. I’d also be a lot richer because it would also mean I’m psychic.
Alright, here it is so that people with no critical thinking skills can get it:
Nobody, at any point, said we should make the speed limit on all roads 6 km/h.
Nobody even said we should make the speed limit on some roads 6 km/h.
The actual thing actually proposed by road safety advocates and people in favour of better urban planning is reducing the speed limit on local residential streets, and in commercial shopping districts. Usually to 30 km/h.
This is a deeply, deeply stupid article.
This is a deeply, deeply stupid comment.
why?
