• escaped_cruzader@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Pain is necessary for life, ask a CIPA patient. Or BDSM enthusiasts

    Stress and hardship are a part of doing any meaningful thing (work, learning, art, survival, etc)

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      11 months ago

      A parasitic worm boring through your body is necessary for the life of the parasitic worm, but God could have made a universe with no parasites if he wanted.

      Stress and hardship can have many causes and many of them have no meaning at all. Being born in to a third world country with extreme poverty for example.

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        God could have made a universe with no parasites if he wanted

        Sure, and it wouldn’t be the same reality we live in

        many of them have no meaning at all

        Mostly an effect of how our reality works, there is no “meaning” necessary for cause and effect

        God being loving yet allowing suffering doesn’t make it a paradox such that it disproves God

        third world country

        My 3rd world country has less suicides than your first world country (assuming you are USA)

        Suffering is relative, and no matter how much of “bad” you remove from the world, suffering will persist

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          Sure, and it wouldn’t be the same reality we live in

          Yes, it would be a better one

          Mostly an effect of how our reality works, there is no “meaning” necessary for cause and effect

          God being loving yet allowing suffering doesn’t make it a paradox such that it disproves God

          I’m not actually trying to disprove god here. But I do believe that if a god has subjected us to such suffering that can be shown in our world and in our histories, then not only is he underserving of our praise, but quite the opposite. There is plenty of evidence that shows that not only is god unloving but that they’re malevolent.

          My 3rd world country has less suicides than your first world country (assuming you are USA)

          Suffering is relative, and no matter how much of “bad” you remove from the world, suffering will persist

          I’m not sure what your point is here.