I spend a bunch of time on spaces for former muslims and there is an arguments I’d like to know what irreleligious people on here think of.
Some pro-Israel exmuslims claim they would rather support a state where people will not call for their death (the same is repeated by some queer exmuslims, Israel even has pride parades they will point out) than one that undoubtedly will hate them even if it might not legally enforce punishment for apostasy.
I don’t support the occupation myself. Something about the argument seems strange (should justice depend on whether a group likes you?) but I can see the appeal of it and I’d like to hear what you non-exmuslim atheists think of it.
It shouldn’t be Israel vs Palestine, it should be rationality vs make-believe. No Muslim or Jewish state should be allowed to exist. Just because Israel wraps their theocracy with the veneer of a modern, secular society doesn’t mean it is so. The pro-Israel lobby always uses this argument framed as an us vs them debate which is just wrong.