• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    There is absolutely no rule saying that you have to be convicted of a crime before you are forced to resign from the Senate. Al Franken did far less and he was forced to resign. And if you don’t think he’s guilty when this is the second time, when they found half a million in cash secreted in envelopes and hidden in clothing around his home, when he googled how much a gold bar is worth… you must think Trump isn’t guilty of the many things he’s been indicted for.

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      1 year ago

      “forced”, Franken made the choice to resign and in hindsight he absolutely shouldn’t have. If congress wants to impeach Bob and the senate wants to convict him and remove him, then great. “Calls for resignation” is chicken shit.

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        He wouldn’t need to be impeached, Senators can be expelled on a 2/3 vote in the Senate and the House doesn’t need to be involved.

        If Schumer scheduled that vote this week, I think he would be toast.

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          Oh, well that’s the same votes needed though. I just looked up if a senator can be impeached, and apparently one had, so maybe the house could start one if they wanted to? but since he’s a senator it wouldn’t be required. If they have the votes and feel that strongly about it though they should do it then. Have a backbone, take a vote and everyone lives with the fallout from it instead of this vague threatening “requesting resignation” B.S.

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        No, he was forced. Schumer was going to take away all of his committee assignments and make him a pariah.

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          That’s not forcing resignation, that’s leave with pay. MTG had her committee assignments taken away in 2021 too, she’s still there. Ilhan Omar was removed for the foreign affairs committee, she’s still there.

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            Having your side of the senate shun you is absolutely forcing resignation. How is he supposed to do his job when none of them will talk to him?

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              Like I said, leave with pay. They can’t stop him from voting or speaking on the floor though which is all their main jobs.

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                They absolutely can stop him from speaking on the floor. But true, they can’t stop him from voting- with Republicans. Which is one of the reasons to force him out.

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                  As someone else pointed out, he doesn’t even need to be impeached, the senate can vote to expel him with a 2/3rds vote. So why aren’t they voting if they feel so upset about it? There’s an established process to kick him out so if they want to set the precedent of kicking someone out based only on accusations before the trial resolves they should do it.

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                    Because Schumer needs to initiate that and he seems to be the only one who doesn’t want Menendez to resign. I don’t think you know how the Senate works.