• whoisearth@lemmy.ca
    123·
    13 hours ago

    I mean it sucks and I drink coke (it’s my mix for booze) but it’s a welcome change (price increase). Soda pop should not be drunk as frequently as it is by people and anything to make it less common is a welcome change IMHO. If becoming more cost prohibitive to people makes them drink it less that’s not a bad thing

    Now the challenge becomes, because America is becoming a 3rd world shithole it’s possible that coke is the only safe drink because thanks to the EPA being gutted over decades water isn’t safe in many areas due to contamination. That’s not cool.

    • Bloomcole@lemmy.ml
      12·
      8 hours ago

      You know that has a lot of sugar, which is a poison and will kill you right?

        • Bloomcole@lemmy.ml
          1·
          6 hours ago

          Hey friend, I’m not the one complaining about the water or people drinking too much.
          It’s friday and I’m going to have plenty of drinks, there will be no soda in sight.
          I wish you a good weekend.

  • Viper_NZ@lemmy.nz
    52·
    22 hours ago

    Not only do they cost more, the greater surface area means your cold drink warms up faster.

    Neat.

    • dQw4w9WgXcQ@lemm.ee
      18·
      16 hours ago

      Greater surface area also means more material for the same product, which leads to less effective transport, more waste and increased polution. Non-standarized can size means every can storage system and cup holder which have taken can size into consideration will be worse. I’m sure a lot of vending machines will have to be modified or scrapped for this can design.

      Everyone are worse off because of this, and it’s all for attempting to trick consumers and increase profits. Shit sucks.

    • Bloomcole@lemmy.ml
      7·
      16 hours ago

      Hey we get this revolutionary super can which is supposed to keep your beer cool.
      The ribs are supposed to reduce the contact area of warm fingers.
      It doesn’t work obviously since they aren’t big enough and skin on fingers are flexible enough to touch everything.
      You only pay 30 to 50% more for this nonsense.
      Everyone tries to avoid them but somehow the normal cans are more than often ‘sold out’ in stores.

  • wuphysics87@lemmy.ml
    33·
    9 hours ago

    Quick ‘proof’ the taller the can, the more material used:

    Consider two cases ignoring the top and bottom only focussing on the surface area. In the first case, you flatten so much the can has no height. This forms a ring that when unwrapped makes a length of 2 pi R.

    Now stretch the can to be ‘infinitely’ long. By construction, this is longer than 2 pi r. Given both are made of aluminum, and have the same density, the larger can has more mass requiring more material.

    The total mass must be a continuous function ranging from the linear mass density times the circumference of the circle to the same mass density time times the ‘length’ of the infinite line. This must remain true for any small increase in length between the two.

    I’ll leave this as an exercise to the reader. What if the circle has an infinite radius?

    • Kwakigra@beehaw.org
      20·
      1 day ago

      The liberal media wants you to think that the two volumes of liquid are equal using their woke science, but if you use your common sense, you can clearly see that the narrow tube is filled higher and therefore contains more liquid. There is nothing wrong with the economy, real Americans just need to use narrower glasses. Checkmate, leftists. /s

    • JackbyDev@programming.devEnglish
      4·
      1 day ago

      Yes! I love this comic (well, I guess it wasn’t originally) and reference it all the time. I was randomly very curious which shot glasses we own are the biggest and was trying to use this as an example because we have some tall skinny ones and short fat ones. “You know! The thing where kids think the tall one is bigger??”

      • naeap@sopuli.xyz
        3·
        1 day ago

        Didn’t knew about that one
        What’s up with that?

        Would have thought that a legal trade of coca leaves would work out reasonable…well, I’m naive it seems

        • Kwakigra@beehaw.org
          41·
          1 day ago

          Coca Cola is an old company with a long and dark history. If they appear reasonable, it’s only because they’ve used the massive weight of their resources to create an international marketing campaign over decades to make themselves appear benign and refreshing.

    • Jimius@lemmy.ml
      1·
      1 day ago

      Good enough to contact one’s consumer organizations or government watchdogs.

    • frank@sopuli.xyz
      26·
      1 day ago

      It’s definitely more surface area per volume, but a 200 vs 202 lid and a smaller hermetic seal cancels some of those losses. Sidewall is cheap aluminum wise, but you’re likely right in that it’s a little more aluminum. Definitely costs more to make since they do fill a little slower.

      Also fuck coke, what a bunch of assholes

      • BCsven@lemmy.ca
        2·
        1 day ago

        The larger diameter of the original can plus the angled transition at either end probably means same surface area of aluminium. Small diameter differences make larger circumferential changes.

        • frank@sopuli.xyz
          6·
          1 day ago

          They do, but overall the can end (lid) is a LOT more aluminum than you expect and the whole rest of it isn’t as much as you expect.

          So a little less lid is worth a fair bit more sidewall in terms of weight of aluminum

            • frank@sopuli.xyz
              2·
              1 day ago

              I guess I’m a bit rusty, so I am not sure at 355ml and the skinny profile if you can get a 202 end can, or have to use a 200

              Hard to tell if it’s sleek or slim

              Edit: Actually no, that’s a 200 not a 202. Look at the profile around the tab.

                • frank@sopuli.xyz
                  1·
                  1 day ago

                  Look at the indent around the opening. On the shorter can it goes from wide to narrow at the back of the tab. It’s more of a straight line on the taller can

  • Steve Dice@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    21·
    1 day ago

    So that’s why they changed the shape. I saw no valid reason so I just assumed they were trying to evade taxes in some way. I’ll admit I have no idea how much anything I buy at a convenience store costs.

    • xthexder@l.sw0.com
      13·
      1 day ago

      If anything the taller cylinder will use more aluminum for the same volume, so they’re kinda shooting themselves in the foot here with aluminum and steel tariffs, lol

      Seems pretty clear the only reason for this was to change the price without as many people noticing.

      • Korhaka@sopuli.xyzEnglish
        5·
        1 day ago

        Regular cans are somewhat inefficient shapes as well, shorter and fatter would be more economical, but less ergonomical and for once that won out, for a while anyway. Now we get designed by marketing instead.

        • xthexder@l.sw0.com
          3·
          1 day ago

          Yeah, there’s an awesome video on aluminum drink cans from TheEngineerGuy on YouTube. The ideal shape for holding pressure with minimal material is a sphere, but there’s 2 problems with that: They roll, and can’t be packed as efficiently as cylinders.

    • imvii@lemmy.caEnglish
      3·
      1 day ago

      I’m not sure of the shape change reason, but I prefer the thinner cans. I have a candy store with soft drinks and I can put more of the thinner cans on the shelf. Usually one more can per shelf.

      • Yoga@lemmy.caEnglish
        3·
        1 day ago

        If the cans were even shorter (closer to cube/ more efficient for amount of aluminum used) you might be able to put 2 on top of eachother

    • Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zipEnglish
      14·
      1 day ago

      I’m shit at math, but probably not? If both contain the same amount of liquid, are filled to the same point and both are round (which they are lol), I don’t see how those would require more material.

      And even if, if they double the price per can, it’s absolutely worth it.

      • Match!!@pawb.socialEnglish
        8·
        1 day ago

        To illustrate, imagine if we kept getting taller and taller - like trying to fit the same volume of soda in a pencil-thin can that’s about a meter long.

        You use more and more aluminum the further away it gets from the minimum surface-area-to-volume container, which would be a sphere