Fuck yes, France.
US citizen here. I have become such a huge fan of France.
Same. Also once you know and understand France’s history and military…. You just don’t fuck with them.
I mean if Canada/France/the World want to get rid of him, I’m not gonna bat an eye? Just saying.
Never have I been more pleased to see a foreign navies nuclear attack sub in my nations waters.
(odd times)
This isn’t a show of force, it’s a demonstration for Canada who is planning to buy a number of these submarines from France.
Regardless, it’s presence makes a statement that Canada is not alone.
Though I’d be cool if it was stationed at Miquelon for a few months.
They don’t need attack subs. They need boomer subs. At this point, Canada needs a nuclear deterrent. And I say that as an American who would be in the cross hairs of said nuclear deterrent. Canada should contract with the French for protection under their umbrella until they can build some of their own. The lesson of Ukraine should be that nukes protect small nations from fascist larger ones. Canada could easily end up like Ukraine. It’s not like fascists can’t find a casus belli. Putin was “restoring Russian glory” or some such. Trump would be “finishing the American Revolution” or some other bullshit.
Please, Canada, from a friend of yours to the south, do not take this threat lightly. No one is going to be able to save you if the US decides to invade. The same oceans that protect you will prevent your rescue. The only hope Canada will ever have of being able to militarily protect its borders from the US is a credible nuclear deterrent.
Just please, don’t harden your hearts while you build these weapons of destruction. Don’t close your doors to refugees from the US. As someone who is on the regime’s enemies list, hopping across the Canadian border and begging for asylum is the last chance I might have if things really go bad.
Instead of putting all eggs in France basket, Canada should also approach North Korea, China, and Russia for detente and nuclear deterrence. Flirting with North Korea is best path to get SK and Japan to commit to our auto industry, and decouple from their own US extortion. Taking bids for Russia to take over NORAD sites is more constructive than continuing military cooperation, and shamefully subservient to US defense pacts with Philippines. If Russia is no longer the enemy the US forces us to make, then we are protecting the US from Russia, and they need to pay for that privilege.
US and foreign auto industry must be forced to choose Canada over US. US manufacturing destroyed through export tariffs on materials and energy, and proceeds used to subsidize Canadian manufacturing. Manufacturing/MSFT in Washington and Michigan states must recommend secession and joining Canada, and be covered by our nuclear shields.
You’re right, thanks for adding context. I’m immediately suspicious when a picture is posted with no accompanying news article, and my search wasn’t turning up any articles, only social media links.
Article is about selling nuclear powered subs. Canada doesn’t need these boondoggles for defense against US, because the mission capability is being months at sea.
I mean, they’re not mutually exclusive. Nobody was about to start openly threatening the Americans, but having French forces around and mulling over defence deals with France sends a signal.
We don’t know what Macron and Trudeau talked about, but accelerating things like this in light of the new reality could well have been part of it.
Australia watching on with regret.
right?! gawwwwwwd we’re so fucking captured
Morrison is such a dickhead.
Morrison knew what he was doing, the sub deal was to poison the chalice before Labor gained the majority.
Unfortunately for the walking sack of salmonella and shitty curry, his wrangler (Murdoch) managed to sway the election enough to get the LNP back in power.
I have actually met Morrison in person once (friends of friends of friends) and he is a fucking moron but JFC he’s at least a brain cell or two ahead of Dutton
I dunno … Dutton seems smarter, but more evil. Morrison just seems like a brainwashed idiot who’s failed upwards. I don’t know how anyone looks at the screaming void of evil that is Dutton and thinks “yeah that thing has my best interests at heart … or a heart”
They’re just two different flavours of evil, Morrison is a happy clapper pentecostalist “God favours the rich” evil and Dutton is an ex-corrupt cop who wants authoritarianism under his rule evil.
They both don’t have the critical thinking to realise the damage they do or why men like them shouldn’t hold positions of power, but Dutton following right out of Trumps playbook despite international backlash is a pretty good case for dumb-as-fuck syndrome.
But I agree, it’s absurd that we have these stooges running for parliament I don’t know how we got here…
I’m still not entirely sure how Australia seemingly wound up with a modified Westminster system that was worse than the original, genuinely pretty impressive.
Arguably at least we have proportional representation. FPTP sucks.
at least we have proportional representation
Only in the Senate. And only on a per-state basis, so it’s only as proportional as “a proportion of 6” can be…which is much less proportional than a proportion of 40, like if the Senate were done nationally.
We knew that BEFORE the election and yet elected the LNP anyway, fuck voters.
Could be worse, you could be a murican ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
What’s the point of these submarines if there aren’t nukes on them?
Nuclear submarines are powered-by nuclear power, they aren’t necessarily platforms for nuclear weapons.
To shoot at the ones with nukes on them?
Also a great and well deserved middle finger to Australia
Yes, this old news is about a nuclear-powered attack submarine, not necessarily a submarine that can nuclear-attack.
IIRC only 2 out of the 9 french subs in service exclusively carry torpedoes and anti-ship missiles (Rubis class). I’m sure the 3 Suffren class with no second strike capabilities could still deliver some sort of short ranged tac nuke. So there are high chances that this is a submarine that can nuclear-attack.
France hasn’t had tactical nukes for some time now
Lamp Oil, Rope, Nuclear Subs? You want it? It’s yours, my friend. As looong as you have enough Euros.
Khajit has wares, if you have coin.
Fake
nuclear subs always give me gundam carrier ship vibes
JT was just in France as one of his last acts as PM. Mere days later this bad boy shows up in a Halifax harbour. 🤔🤔🤔 Merci a la belle France 🇫🇷🤝🇨🇦
Vive la France!
Bonjour!
Hijacking the top comment to let people know this isn’t in response to any American threats, this is Naval Group, a French naval defense company, showing off their submarine because Canada is looking to spend 60 billion on twelve submarines. The plans for this purchase were publicly announced on July 10, 2024.
Here’s a French news article about the submarine, seeing as I couldn’t seem to find any sources in English.
Naval Group, a French naval defense company
Ah shit, that’s the same company Australia had a deal with to buy diesel subs, before our fuckwit former PM reneged on the deal to create AUKUS and buy American nuclear subs.
I’ll take both reasons as canon, thank you very much
I’ll take both reasons as cannon, thank you very much
FTFY
without cannons, how will they fight?!?
I had real good tingle feels imagining France showing up on our coast during this part of history.
A real “we got you bro” moment in my imagination.Le sad.
France manages to get a sub to us before the UK even deigns to comment. That says it all. Merci beacoup!
Look here sonny Jim, Daddy’s always watching, Mummy might show up first for a bit of comfort and that, but Daddy’ll be here when you need him.
Could have imagined this happening as little as 3 years ago.
An ally sending a nuclear deterrent into our waters as a message/warning to the US. This normally happens to countries like Iran or North Korea
Hey. Guess what? At the moment, we’re the bad guys…
At the moment? When was there ever a time the US weren’t the bad guys?
Pretty much all Western countries looked up to the US between 1945 and 2016 (or so).
Presumably, you’re the kind of person who thinks we’ve all been the bad guys the whole time, though. And TBF shit things were done, it’s just that everyone else has been even more shit.
Pretty much all Western countries looked up to the US between 1945 and 2016 (or so).
Are you sure about that? Pretty much all Western countries see America as a convenient bully.
As a Westerner not from America (like most of the users in this community), yes, I am sure about that. I didn’t say it was a relationship without conflict, but they helped defeat the Nazis, lead the charge in the Cold War and then were the fulcrum of the new trade-focused world order in the so-called “end of history” period that followed. We all watched American movies the whole time and it’s not because anyone was forcing us.
They only joined WW2 when the Nazis where pretty much defeated by the rest of the allies and success was guaranteed. Only to invent themselves as the sole winner of the war. During the Cold war they fought hot proxy wars all over the place without any interest in casualties as long as they didn’t look weak for the soviets. Even after the Cold war western countries were only lucky that the US didn’t invade them for oil or other interests. They brought “freedom” to so many countries by now it became a fucking meme. Sure I’m seeing things a bit narrow and I might be biased but the US is and was a shithole that fucked up everyone around them as long as I can think of. The only reason they could do it is because they would crush you if you tried stopping them or it was useful to you because you weren’t the current victim. As you put it so nicely, the convenient bully.
Briefly the us was the good guys when we killed a bunch of slavers and then when we killed a bunch of fascists. Those were exceptions to the rule though.
Looks at founding fathers… Yeah killed the slavers. Puts blanket over Native Indians. Hides Chinese rail workers under rug. Renames Irish “Indentured workers”
They were clearly talking about the Union during the Civil War…
Yeah that’s pretty obvious what’s your point?
What’s the relevance of the founding fathers, then?
They also killed the Nazis, except for the ones that were useful, of course.
I kinda root for them in the war of independence
Yup
Still hasn’t happened. This was a sales pitch for a Canadian defence contract.
Let’s go! France is here to protect Canada!
Na, they’re just finishing the 7years war-round 2
The scale of these things is always fascinating. They’re always much larger than I think they are.
For reference, I think that’s a Suffren class, making it just shy of 100m, or a tad longer than a football field for my fellow Americans.
The previously-mentioned French article says it’s a Barracuda, but I don’t know if that’s a model or a class.
And unsurprisingly, he also decided to offer the Royal Canadian Navy its “premium” model, the Barracuda, rather than the Scorpène.
The Barracuda is (apparently) an export variant of the Suffren and is indeed a little shorter but still over 300 ft long.
perchance, banana for scale?
It’s a football field, Micheal. How big could it be, a banana?
It’s there, but hard to see.
Canadian football fields are 100m, so just the right size for us!
CFL fields are 110 yards, which is about 100m. Close enough I guess :)
“Bring it” - France probably
I believe it’s “Le Bring it”
Don’t tease me!
NOBODY backs an American Revolution like the French!
🇫🇷🦅🎆
Fake
Fuck yeah.
