For the love of God Europe, we need a world power that actually respects human rights, not outright rejects them like Russia, pretends to embrace like America, or outright rejects them while tankies pretend that China embraces them.
You’re looking in the wrong place. Several EU members have far right leaders already, many more are moving right. The EU (and UK) are about 4 or 5 years behind the US. Don’t confuse disagreement with Trump over Ukraine with meaningful ideological differences.
What do you define as “human rights”? Because I would say that the western ideas of them have failed pretty heavily especially when it comes to deciding who they are enforced for and who they are not.
I think we need to be more critical of past ideas as they are the exact ideas that have brought us here. Doomed to repeat it and all that.
I would say to learn from all of the societies you mentioned instead of simplifying something into “China bad” or “Russia bad” or “America Bad”.
It’s ignorant to look at a world power like China and throw out all of the good they have done for their people. There are absolutely things we can learn from their success and failure. But I guess saying this is gonna make me a “Tankie”.
As Carlin said. If God gave us “rights” he’d have given us a right to a good meal everyday. I think it’s important to not fall into western superiority. It’s especially important for us to rethink what we think of as “rights” because it has not been working that well, no matter the intention.
This is the entire point. The point is that Europeans use the US as something to point to in order to say “well at least we aren’t like them” while ignoring their own issues that are leading to fascist ideologies.
You might learn a thing or two from the Americans that are not brain rotted when they warn you about the reactionary ideologies that they see in Europe that are extremely similar to what has happened in the US.
You are not immune to what is happening in the US. You are absolutely following the same path as the imperial power that sustains you and Western society as a whole.
I am not someone that is talking in terms of “American exceptionalism”. I am someone extremely critical of that that is trying to explain the connections our ruling classes will align with.
So you don’t know what you are talking about. Somehow Europe is a bastion of human rights while upholding Israel’s genocide (among many, many other things). Ridiculous idea, the EU and the US both disrespect human rights and the idea that one is, in anyway, respecting of them is ridiculous and stupid.
I think that if your point can’t stand on its own, and it only makes sense when compared to another country then that tells us all we need to know about if Europe actually respects human rights…
For the love of God Europe, we need a world power that actually respects human rights, not outright rejects them like Russia, pretends to embrace like America, or outright rejects them while tankies pretend that China embraces them.
You’re looking in the wrong place. Several EU members have far right leaders already, many more are moving right. The EU (and UK) are about 4 or 5 years behind the US. Don’t confuse disagreement with Trump over Ukraine with meaningful ideological differences.
What do you define as “human rights”? Because I would say that the western ideas of them have failed pretty heavily especially when it comes to deciding who they are enforced for and who they are not.
I think we need to be more critical of past ideas as they are the exact ideas that have brought us here. Doomed to repeat it and all that.
I would say to learn from all of the societies you mentioned instead of simplifying something into “China bad” or “Russia bad” or “America Bad”.
It’s ignorant to look at a world power like China and throw out all of the good they have done for their people. There are absolutely things we can learn from their success and failure. But I guess saying this is gonna make me a “Tankie”.
As Carlin said. If God gave us “rights” he’d have given us a right to a good meal everyday. I think it’s important to not fall into western superiority. It’s especially important for us to rethink what we think of as “rights” because it has not been working that well, no matter the intention.
Ah yes, because the EU is a bastion of respecting human rights. Supporting genocide politically and financially is a great marker of that? 🙄
Compared to the US? yes
This is the entire point. The point is that Europeans use the US as something to point to in order to say “well at least we aren’t like them” while ignoring their own issues that are leading to fascist ideologies.
You might learn a thing or two from the Americans that are not brain rotted when they warn you about the reactionary ideologies that they see in Europe that are extremely similar to what has happened in the US.
You are not immune to what is happening in the US. You are absolutely following the same path as the imperial power that sustains you and Western society as a whole.
I am not someone that is talking in terms of “American exceptionalism”. I am someone extremely critical of that that is trying to explain the connections our ruling classes will align with.
I’m also American, I’m just ashamed of how poorly my country has treated me throughout the years
So you don’t know what you are talking about. Somehow Europe is a bastion of human rights while upholding Israel’s genocide (among many, many other things). Ridiculous idea, the EU and the US both disrespect human rights and the idea that one is, in anyway, respecting of them is ridiculous and stupid.
I think that if your point can’t stand on its own, and it only makes sense when compared to another country then that tells us all we need to know about if Europe actually respects human rights…
Europe? Are you fucking kidding me 😂