Not to mention the “Governor Trudeau” extra-dumb.
God I hate politics-by-Twitter. I’m appalled that the US is turning into a fascist country, but I’m even more appalled by how pathetic, puerile and trashy the US’ new fascist overlords are. At least Hitler dressed in Hugo Boss and made speeches that enthralled people: MAGA dresses like tramps, Steve Bannon-stylee and bullies other countries like kids on the playground.
That shows clearly that these tariffs are there to distract (yes it they hurt Americans, Canadians and Mexicans, but he doesn’t care) to make media stop talking about Ukraine.
It is all to distract from the dismantling of any apparatus that could block his next attempt to stay in power forever.
This is all misdirection.
The fact that they’re not even good at being evil somehow pisses me off even more at the whole situation
To be fair, the nazis were pretty fucking stupid too. The evil-cool, machine-like, storm trooper aesthetic they’re known for is cultivated, at least by a significant portion, by nazis overseas that wanted them to be likeable.
Some of it is cultural momentum, for sure. I also like Storm Troopers. But nazis really like Storm Troopers.
Yeah, I remember watching speeches by Hitler back when I was in school. I didn’t understand German so I didn’t know what he was saying, but I could at least appreciate that the Nazis knew how to project power and competence.
I always understood the fascist aesthetic to be something very macho, very serious-seeming, etc. I always thought the idea was that you had an incredibly charismatic strong-man leader who had all the answers. And, given that, I could understand how people could be taken in.
But, the MAGA aesthetic is so ugly. Their rhetoric is so unserious. Their leader is so old, fat and caked in orange makeup, and he sounds like an absolute moron. The people attending the rallies do comical things like wearing diapers. And yet, half the US looks at that and thinks: yeah, I’ll vote for them.
And then there’s Elon Musk. Every time he opens his mouth it’s less and less believable that anything he ever did was the result of skill or competence. Any time he talks about programming or system administration it’s clear he has no fucking clue what he’s talking about. When he talks about gaming he claims he’s one of the top players in the world, and yet it’s obvious he’s barely played the games involved. But, apparently Americans are so brainwashed that being rich means you’re “a genius”.
I hated George W. Bush, but at least I could understand how some people found his schtick endearing. I could understand how he harnessed people’s fear and hate and turned it into support for his “war on terrah”. But, with Trump my opinion of Americans has gone down to the lowest level ever. This is what works for you? Really??
Not to mention the “Governor Trudeau” extra-dumb.
Trudeau is probably above that, but it would be mildly amusing if he started calling Trump “comrade Trump” or maybe “vice-president Trump”
He called him “Donald” and republicans/maga are outraged!!! lol
We should all be calling him by his real name, “VP Krasnov”.
ETA: and “Murca” is now glorious “KRASNOVIA”
lol ours is retaliatory but theirs are reciprocal?
Eat shit asshole.
This guy doesn’t even understand those words. They’ve got someone writing his tweets now.
Seems like it. It’s not all in caps and misspelled. Can’t even claim it’s AI because at least it would try to duplicate him
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In 6 months, he’s going to be talking about how Canada started this trade war.
He’s basically saying it now. He is calling his current tariff “reciprocal”.
the classic American strategy of preemptive reciprocation
“Preemptive Reciprocation” I love it 😝
Premature reciprocation
“It all started when he returned my punch…”
Weapons of mass devaluation
Six months? At this pace I’m expecting tomorrow.
I’ve already seen (USian) conservatives claiming that
That’s only if he’s still breathing in 6 months
He’s probably already saying this.
All this could have been avoided if one guy had slightly better aim.
People were thinking about that probably a lot in the 30s and 40s
The guy had a pretty good aim. It was down to luck.
I think the shittier part of this is that if that whole thing hadn’t happened, Trump might have not won. He got the best PR of his whole campaign during that one minute.
God I’m exhausted.
At this point, we just need to cut it all off completely. Oil shipments, electricity, lumber, aluminum. All of it.
I know that that’s a hard ask for those industries that are affected, and if it means the federal goverment has to temporarily raise the deficit in order to subsidize those industries it’ll be crazy expensive and inflation will shoot up. But I’m convinced that that would be only a short amount of time that that would actually be needed.
Let the United States go one week without our stuff. 100%…fuck 'em. They’ll last one week. Maybe two. And when they quit their bullshit, make it clear that we are diversifying our business partners making it easier to pull it from them again anytime they let Trump open is fucking mouth.
Hold our resources hostage against them.
I mean, if we play all our cards at once, we have no cards left for the next thing, and in the process that might raise enough American political will to invade for real.
It should be and I think is all on the table, though, and I have no problem with it if they want to escalate, because we also need to raise political will to sever our ties for good.
we have no cards left for the next thing,
That’s the game, he’s bleeding you for cards.
If he’s going to attack you, he’ll bleed you first. There is no appeasing him permanently.
We have a deep deck (which is part of why playing the whole thing at once would be kinda nutty). Like every day someone mentions a new way to screw with them I hadn’t thought of. Cutting off power, cutting off water, taking their stuff and not paying, ignoring their intellectual property, cutting off Alaska…
Nobody is talking appeasement anymore, even Danielle Smith is getting muted about it. The question is how to help Trump ruin himself the best, politically and economically.
He may be dumb but not as much as the people who voted for him
Ok it’s starting to feel like a game now. Can we cause American hyperinflation by a targeted tariff feedback loop?
Or like the sort of thing a hostile foreign government might really want to have happen to the US…
Good thing we have agent Krasnov at the helm.
Tbh, I’ve been pondering just how regulated organized market manipulation is nowadays. With the market going through “corrections” because of tariffs and the FCC being completely defanged, a large group of organized retail investors have the opportunity to get up to some pretty funny business.
If by “funny business” you mean raise prices on products that don’t actually have tariffs on them, then it’s a safe bet that yeah, there’s going to be some funny business.
No, because Canada’s economy will collapse long before the US economy if each side just keeps increasing tariffs. What Canada needs to do is make things cheaper for Canadians, not more expensive.
Take any law related to US intellectual property and decriminalize that.
Violating the copyright on Hollywood movies? Go for it. No charge.
Something you want to do is covered by a patent held by an American? Do it, you won’t be prosecuted.
Want to bypass DRM on a tractor, a printer, an iPhone, sell or give away tools to allow anybody else to do it? Feel free.
The biggest advantage of this approach is that if the US did the same thing with respect to Canadian IP, they’d have so much less to work with. The US has geared its economy towards producing IP, and then used trade deals to demand that other countries respect that IP or the US will put tariffs on their stuff. Well, clearly the US isn’t holding up its end of that bargain, so fuck 'em.
The only difference is we’re putting tariffs on things that we can source elsewhere vs the blanket tariffs from the states. But I agree we should also do all the IP stuff you mentioned.
Just take something we import very little and slap a -200% tariff
-200%? The US government pays you 200% of what the import is worth?
Canada should add a 100% tariff on USA crude oil that we import (Canada import 0 I guess) and with trump reciprocal thinggy, automatically crude oil from Canada to USA would have a 100% tariff on it lol
Speech from Trudeau gave me “we’re at war” vibes.
It’s incredible at which speed things are falling apart.
They’re only falling apart because trump took a wrecking ball to them.
Look forward to the day that orange shit stain is dead. Hopefully tonight.
Americans: Just imagine the White House is an elementary school…
Mate, can you imagine president Vance? Careful what you wish for.
If Vance were president Republican spines would start to grow back. Trump’s hold over Republicans is a major part of the problem.
Vance might not be The Guy, but I disagree that removing Trump solves the problem at all. He’s more like the most prominent symptom.
Before 2016, Trump in the minds of most Americans was some washed up reality show star from the 90s. He is, and has always been, an ugly, uncharismatic, racist piece of shit. If the conservative propaganda machine can propel this artificially colored, barely articulate moron to the top, they can propel just about anyone. The only caveat is that whoever they propel has to be willing to do anything, to destroy any international relationship, to flip flop at the drop of a hat, and to not ask questions outside of “how will this benefit me?”
Vance might be a selfish, uncharismatic idiot in his own right, but unlike Trump he does have two braincells to rub together. Fox, Newsmax, Rogan, and the like might not be willing to throw themselves behind that. But there’s no shortage of vaguely remembered, self-absorbed celebrities who will be willing to take his place. Think President Oz, or heck, maybe Hulk Hogan would throw his hat in the ring.
Point is, as long as we have a populace that disrespects education and science, and that’s completely unmotivated to participate in our gerrymandered and unrepresentative FPTP system, the propaganda machine will always churn out a shittier asshole next year. The worst of us will hand them the reigns, and Republicans will follow that asshole without question. Trump isn’t as special a case as people want to believe. We’ve been on this trajectory for decades.
You need to find a way to get the non-voting 35% of the eligible voter population to actually vote.
And also vote in their own interest. Near as I can tell, their lack of belief in the system stems from their lack of interest in learning about it as much as its actual flaws. One of the big strengths of conservatives is drawing in first time voters who don’t know jack about squat by playing on their fears–as racist and stupid as those fears may be.
Yeah but there’s no reason that trick needs to be a fascist exclusive.
I’m comfortable with Vance also eating a face full of patriotic American made lead.
I don’t think Vance has the charisma or character to keep the MAGA interests from eating each other and him.
Just need to kill them both
Yeah… This.
Don’t get me wrong, if/when Trump dies, it’ll be a day that I’m a bit happier, but if he dies during his presidency, I know he’ll be immediately replaced by someone who is either just as bad or worse.
My only hope with Vance if he takes on the job, is that he’s such a fucking bootlicker that hopefully he’ll spend too much time sucking off corporate interests that he can’t do too much more damage than Trump has already done.
It’s possible, however unlikely, that someone will convince Vance to do the right thing for the wrong reasons (he definitely won’t do it for the right reasons), because someone else told him too… I have no illusions that he wouldn’t come up with the idea himself. He’s just not that bright in my mind.
One hopes Vance doesn’t have the same vice grip on the balls of the Republican Party that Trump does.
He also wants his face on currency. The man is a menace
He also wants his face on currency
You have to be dead before that happens.
I’m sure someone would be willing to help
I don’t think there’s any law requiring that
Not that it would matter if there was, mind you, seeing as there’s a whole thing in the Constitution about not having insurrectionists who broke their oath to uphold the Constitution be allowed to ever hold elected office again, and well…
What’s wrong with that? I also want my face on some currency :)
@imvii Perhaps since little donny says he does not need anything from Canada we should shut off his electric and oil now. That would be before he could effectively replace it.
I’m down for it.
There is a little buzz that Trump is going to back pedal in a day or two, which would be hilarious. But I think we keep the pressure on even if he does.
None of this back and forth shit.
If he backpedals I still hope the LCBO donated all that American liquor to the Legion and bars for one ultra liquor holiday.
They pulled the trigger, I don’t want that shit back on the shelves, even if they do call taksies backsies.
They better not put that shit back on the shelves. It’s the 2nd time that we’ve pulled it off the shelves, and we keep putting it back on. FOR WHAT
It’s better to just sell it and not replenish the stock than to dispose of it all at a massive loss. The US sellers won’t get more money either way, but this way some losses can be avoided on the Canadian side.
“While Ontario-based retailers will have the discretion to sell whatever stock they have on hand, they will no longer be able to buy U.S. products from LCBO,” the email continues.
We do not have to buy it
Agreed. No backing down now. Keep the pressure on and increasing. This isn’t ending any time soon.
Trump doesn’t understand he’s a bitch no matter what he does.
It will be a shit show until Canada and the rest of the western world work out agreements independent of the US.
Over here in the EU we still need gas and oil. I’d much rather import it from Canada than from Qatar or some other middle eastern dictatorship.
As a Canadian I agree but that is difficult. Canada is so integrated with the US that they basically refine all of our crude. Canadian crude is unlike crude from anywhere else and has to be refined a certain way. So we have to build refineries or you do, that can handle our capacity. That takes time and certainly won’t be instantaneous. It’s not like we can just divert.
Yeah plus the transport would be much more expensive. But I guess building your own refineries will give much more flexibility for the future…
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Isolating a fascist power with the strongest military in the world doesn’t work. Eventually they work up the balls to use it.
Every nation should be prepared for what happens when the purge of the US military and government is complete and only loyalists hold power.
It is still the right thing to do. As you say, we just all need to be prepared for it.
This guy is gonna start a war.
He already did. Tariffs are an act of war, especially when overtly related to annexation goals (as is the case here).
Economic warfare is warfare, just not with guns.
It’s like he doesn’t understand tariffs… It’s hurting your country.
If you put a tariff, it increases the price you’re paying. It makes the goods more expensive for your industry and your population. It makes your industry less competitive as your industry has to sell at higher prices.
Then comes the reciprocal tardif what makes your industry even less competitive. Putting more tardif will hurt your industry.
Did he say “he was the champion of the industry” or whatever similar? Well people voted for the person who doesn’t know what 2+2 makes.
Thing is, America isn’t Trump’s country. Not in any patriotic sense. Far as he is concerned, it is just a random McDonald’s he can ransack and sell off in pieces to whoever can pay him.
