Tos copy updates (fix #16016) (#16018) · mozilla/bedrock@d459add
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* ToS copy updates (fix #16016) * Apply suggestions from code review - copy change Co-authored-by: maureenlholland <maureen@silverorange.com> --------- Co-authored-by: maureenlholland <...

cross-posted from: https://programming.dev/post/26136291

Mozilla has just deleted the following:

“Does Firefox sell your personal data?”

“Nope. Never have, never will. And we protect you from many of the advertisers who do. Firefox products are designed to protect your privacy. That’s a promise. "

Source: Lundke journal.

  • SpaceTurtle@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    82·
    3 days ago

    This seems out of context. The same git commit that removes the paragraph OP pointed out also adds the following text:

    “We believe the internet is for people, not profit. Unlike other companies, we don’t sell access to your data. You’re in control over who sees your search and browsing history. All that and exceptional performance too.”

    To me that seems more like a re-wording than a fundamental change.

    Edit: I somewhat misread the commit, as @olexander@lemmy.world pointed out below.

  • PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca
    101·
    3 days ago

    So if you don’t want to use a chromium based browser but also care about privacy, you’re now fucked?

    • vaguerant@fedia.io
      14·
      3 days ago

      Firefox is open-source. Certainly, you’re out of options in terms of “name-brand” browsers, but there’s a number of Firefox forks. On desktop, LibreWolf is the closest thing to mainline and on Android, IronFox is the equivalent.

      If you want something more than just “Firefox minus the branding and tracking”, some of the deeper forks are Zen Browser and Floorp.

        • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
          0·
          3 days ago

          I can’t speak to PaleMoon, but I use Fennec on my phone. My understanding is that they try to track as closely as they can to Firefox main, but with enough changes to be a separate thing.

          • vaguerant@fedia.io
            0·
            3 days ago

            I’ve heard nothing negative about PaleMoon either, as far as privacy. I do think it’s a bit tougher to recommend to the average user due to its single-process architecture.

            The memory footprint is great, but everybody is kind of used to the performance and stability gains from multi-process browsers. I would feel weird recommending somebody coming off Firefox jump to PaleMoon.

            • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
              1·
              3 days ago

              I feel weird recommending any Firefox fork other than Iceweasel/Fennec (name change only, pretty much) or Tor/Mullvad Browser. Everything else runs a risk of poor maintenance, which could lead to security vulnerabilities.

    • cabbage@piefed.socialEnglish
      9·
      3 days ago

      If you don’t want to use Gecko nor Chromium, I am aware of the following alternatives:

      WebKit

      Though associated with Apple and Safari, WebKit (@webkit@front-end.social) has its origins in KDE and its Konqueror browser. KDE developed its own web engine called KHTML, which was forked into WebKit. It’s therefore fully open source, despite the Apple connection.

      On Linux you can use WebKit in GNOME Web (formerly Epiphany) or Konqueror. If you’re on Mac, Safari is probably your best bet. Windows users appear to be out of luck.

      Servo

      Servo (@servo@floss.social) is a brand new Rust-based engine which was originally developed by Mozilla, but which was abandoned by them like good things often are. Thankfully the Linux foundation took over developments. It’s still in development, but from their download page you can take it for a spin within seconds on all three major operating systems. It’s looking pretty good.

      They maintain a list of things made with Servo. The most promising project so far appears to be a browser named Verso.

      Ladybird

      Ladybird is another development to follow. Unlike WebKit and Servo, Ladybird is being developed as a web browser in its own right, but this browser will come with a completely original rendering engine. It aims to have an alpha released next year, and is largely written in C++.

      • PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca
        0·
        3 days ago

        Right but it’s not even something one can use or download right now or in the short term so it’s kind of not even worth considering at the moment.

  • LWD@lemm.ee
    5·
    3 days ago

    Mozilla FakeSpot promises that the following “is Sold and/or Shared [with] Advertising partners”:

    • “browsing history, search history”
    • “Geolocation data”
    • “a profile about a consumer”

    Instead of aligning FakeSpot (which they bought in 2023) with their pro-privacy stance, it seems they are realigning their stance with their actual activity.

    Brownie points for being honest, I guess.

  • AItoothbrush@lemmy.zipEnglish
    3·
    3 days ago

    We need an eu browser. The governent for example should only use software that is verifiably secure.

    • golli@lemm.ee
      2·
      3 days ago

      I’d agree with that if it weren’t for multiple EU goverments including mine (Germany) trying to undermine encryption and security at every opportunity possible, despite getting told off by courts more than once.

      Imo the question is how a non profit can be set up to reliably follow their goals in the longterm. And my fear is that ultimately it is always down to the personnel selection, which you can’t lock in.