So he’s saying that people whose entire qualification are they went through a 2 week boot camp or through a youtube tutorial aren’t qualified…? I think? I tend to agree if thats all theyve done, but to be honest a lot of my degree felt like it could have been a 4 hour YT tutorial.
People who get out of uni have no real world experience and should be treated as a juniors though. I’ve met a lot of people who have book smarts and no idea what to do after theyre in an org. They’re weird to work with because you can explain a concept, they’ll get it but not be able to apply it or fully see relevance. They’re intelligent but lack experience, which seniors provide.
The LinkedIn OP doesn’t write clearly, but seems to think junior roles don’t do real work. He clearly needs to work in a SOC role to see the difference between a junior and a senior. Lacking experience doesn’t mean no meaningful output.
I’ve hired people who did a bootcamp or whatever, and I tend to ask what else they’ve done. The good candidates will have an interesting side project and learned a ton outside of the program, and the poor candidates will try to pass classwork off as “personal projects.”
We’ve hired bootcamp people who are way better than people with masters degrees. And I don’t just mean faster, I mean they’re actually better at the conceptual stuff. Some people just learn better by doing than reading, so they can catch up.
That said, our best “bootcamp engineer” is doing a degree right now while working full time (dude is a beast) to fill in the gaps.
I have met many so many people fresh from university. They studied computer science and they just couldn’t code. Like the code quality was abysmal. I literally dealt with people who didn’t know how to use git. 6 months later, they were fine. But at the start…
Yeah I had uni projects with people in the same degree as me (Comp Sci) who straight up said they never learned to code. It baffled me that two people would both leave the degree not knowing the same stuff. I honestly don’t know how they were passing classes in some cases.
There’s definitely too much knowledge for any one bootcamp, uni course or YT tutorial to teach and experience gaps are hard to identify until they come up. Best thing uni did was teach me how to teach myself, but someone following YT tutorials likely has that skill. That’s probably the most important skill to have as someone in tech imo.
So he’s saying that people whose entire qualification are they went through a 2 week boot camp or through a youtube tutorial aren’t qualified…? I think? I tend to agree if thats all theyve done, but to be honest a lot of my degree felt like it could have been a 4 hour YT tutorial.
People who get out of uni have no real world experience and should be treated as a juniors though. I’ve met a lot of people who have book smarts and no idea what to do after theyre in an org. They’re weird to work with because you can explain a concept, they’ll get it but not be able to apply it or fully see relevance. They’re intelligent but lack experience, which seniors provide.
The LinkedIn OP doesn’t write clearly, but seems to think junior roles don’t do real work. He clearly needs to work in a SOC role to see the difference between a junior and a senior. Lacking experience doesn’t mean no meaningful output.
I’ve hired people who did a bootcamp or whatever, and I tend to ask what else they’ve done. The good candidates will have an interesting side project and learned a ton outside of the program, and the poor candidates will try to pass classwork off as “personal projects.”
We’ve hired bootcamp people who are way better than people with masters degrees. And I don’t just mean faster, I mean they’re actually better at the conceptual stuff. Some people just learn better by doing than reading, so they can catch up.
That said, our best “bootcamp engineer” is doing a degree right now while working full time (dude is a beast) to fill in the gaps.
I have met many so many people fresh from university. They studied computer science and they just couldn’t code. Like the code quality was abysmal. I literally dealt with people who didn’t know how to use git. 6 months later, they were fine. But at the start…
No university has the time to teach you coding.
That guy is acting like universities did.
Yeah I had uni projects with people in the same degree as me (Comp Sci) who straight up said they never learned to code. It baffled me that two people would both leave the degree not knowing the same stuff. I honestly don’t know how they were passing classes in some cases.
There’s definitely too much knowledge for any one bootcamp, uni course or YT tutorial to teach and experience gaps are hard to identify until they come up. Best thing uni did was teach me how to teach myself, but someone following YT tutorials likely has that skill. That’s probably the most important skill to have as someone in tech imo.