The Left Party says “there shouldn’t be any billionaires.” With Germany gearing up for an election, the far-left force has launched a new tax plan — though it will most likely never get a chance to implement it.

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    The green party (Bündnis 90/Die Grünen) is moderate left and fully supporrs Ukraine. I’m probably gonna vote for them. The war is only going a few years yet, so I wouldn’t call it a “forever war”. I’ve seen a lot of wars come and go in my lifetime and I think this one will end in a few more years or less. It’s just very important to teach russia a lesson, they can’t just attack others without serious consequences. It’s not just important for Ukraines future, but for all mankind. Ukraine and the heroes risking and giving their life on the battlefield for our future deserve our full support for teaching russia that lesson. If the war ends before russia learns that, they will soon attack another friendly neighbour, so it’s either fight now or fight even more later. It’s unfortunate, but sometimes you just gotta resist and fight back for a better future.

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      The green party is as bellicist as it gets. It supported every single military intervention INCLUDING IRAQ. You guys are literally voting for the baddies

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      It’s incredibly easy to teach others lessons when you have nothing at risk, now or in the future.

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        Ukraine risks a lot to teach that lesson and they have my full support. It’s not easy tho, because there are people like you trying to send us all to our doom.

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          Yes, it’s easy to teach lessons when you are taking no risk and losing nothing.

          It’s not so great for the Ukrainians who were forcibly drafted at the end of a gun, so Germany can teach Russia a lesson.

          If you think any of nuclear Europe is ever at any risk from Russia, you’re too stupid to breathe, much less have an opinion on the matter.

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            You are arguing in super-bad faith.

            No one is forcing Ukraine to right but Russia.

            How in your mind does not sending them help teach anyone a lesson? Fuck allies who are defending themselves?

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              No, I’m disagreeing with you. That’s not arguing in bad faith and trying to claim that is simply nonsense to protect your echo chamber generated views.

              You’re right, no one is forcing Ukraine to fight Russia, except every international aid agency. Oh and Black Rock now that they’ve purchased large swaths of Ukrainian land. But more importantly Ukraine isn’t it’s people. It’s never been a democratic state by any standards, until 2014 it was downright considered despotic. But that government that does not have consent from the majority of its people is forcibly conscripting men off the street to fight and die in a war they clearly don’t want to fight. While this is happening the Ukrainian government has massively enriched itself.

              Not sending them help, and instead treating them like any other war victim would be the fair thing. Take in the refugees. Resettle anyone that doesn’t want to speak Russian or go to the meat grinder. Sanction Russia.

              Ukraine isn’t an ally to anyone, it’s an investment opportunity for billionaires. That’s about it. Let’s not depopulate it and let the land be given away.

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                Nope, it is bad-faith.

                Person A: it is important to teach Russia a lesson so they think twice about invading.

                Person B(you): that is easy to say when you are in no danger.

                That is a strawman. You are right that it is easy to say something like that when not in danger, but this doesn’t mean it is not important to have Ukraine stand up to Russia.

                After that you just waffle about stuff you wanted to say anyway.

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                  13 days ago

                  …no Patrick, pointing out problems in your argument is not bad faith or a strawman.

                  If you think its important, stop being a fucking sniveling coward and go fight. You people have no problem invading brown, black, and Asian people that threaten your master races rule over the world, but since it’s someone that can fight back you want to sacrifice someone else to do it.

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                Wow, where from did you get your info?

                Ukraine government does not have majority? Forcibly conscripting? That’s Russia, you got your wires crossed.

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                  Sure sure. Anyway since there’s videos and news stories on the first page of Google proving me right you enjoy being propagandized by a nation that’s still more corrupt than any EU or Asian country.