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      18 days ago

      You’re talkin’ bout me. Yeah, I was pretty impressed when Trump got a cease-fire so quickly. Thought he might actually be better in this respect than Harris. Sadly I was wrong – I’ll admit that.

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        17 days ago

        What are the chances Republicans were pressuring Netanyahu to delay a ceasefire until after the election, like they did in the Iran hostage crisis?

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          17 days ago

          Zero. Biden could force a ceasefire if he wanted to; Trump couldn’t force him not to. And Carter didn’t provide Iran with tens of billions in arms, so it’s not a good comparison.

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        17 days ago

        Good. Ceasefire was just a cover to ramp up the cleansing in the West Bank though. He’s worse on all fronts.

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          17 days ago

          Less Palestinians are dying, less bombs are being dropped, people are returning to Northern Gaza, which was ethnically cleansed under Biden, but you don’t actually care about what happens to Palestinians, you just care that it’s the red team doing it not the blue

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            17 days ago

            Less Palestinians are dying, less bombs are being dropped, people are returning to Northern Gaza

            What planet are you on, have you read the OP?

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      18 days ago

      So far Trump has been objectively better on Gaza than Biden was. The fact that BlueMAGA liberals are actually acknowledging and condemning the USA governments genocidal actions now, rather than denying and defending them like they did under Biden, is just icing on the cake.

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        18 days ago

        “calls for ethnic cleansing”

        consistently better

        Amazing

        You must be from a fascinating alternate reality where the sky is red and fire makes things cold and people wear hats on their feet

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          It’s very revealing of their mindset that BlueMAGA liberals consider Trump calling for ethnic cleansing to be worse that Democrats actually doing ethnic cleansing. Though, of course, to you people, foreigners aren’t human and Palestine isn’t a real place, so it’s all just talk to you.

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              18 days ago

              Yes, famously Trump has never said he’d do something and not done it, lol.

              Though that’s beside the point anyway, we are talking about now, and the things that Trump and Biden have actually done, not things that haven’t happened.

              Though, of course, BlueMAGA liberals think Palestine is a fictional place, so to you, none of these things have happened.

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                My sibling in Satan I’m not even american, in fact I’m hoping your cancer of a fucking country fucking ends itself in the next decade.

                But in the meantime saying the guy who is currently in the process of finishing the job of displacing and killing millions has “actually done a lot better in the now” is

                … You’re either trolling or really REALLY fucking stupid.

                Either way there is no point in talking to you.

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                  My sibling in Satan I’m not even american

                  That just makes you being a BlueMAGA fanatic even more embarrassing.

                  in fact I’m hoping your cancer of a fucking country fucking ends itself in the next decade.

                  I’m not American, but if that’s how you feel, Trump is certainly making your dream more likely to become reality.

                  But in the meantime saying the guy who is currently in the process of finishing the job of displacing and killing millions has “actually done a lot better in the now” is You’re either trolling or really REALLY fucking stupid.

                  Less people are dying by far now than they were under Biden, and the people who were ethnically cleansed from Northern Gaza are returning thanks to Trump’s ceasefire. These are objective realities.

                  But of course, you care far more about what Trump says than what the Democrats do. Because Palestinians aren’t real to you, it’s all just a television show.

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        17 days ago

        Still coping I see.

        Most of the people roasting you here aren’t liberals. They’re anarchists, socialists, actual leftists that have always condemned the harm the US is causing. Just not dumbasses.

        You sound just as dumb as the MAGAts calling people woke.

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          17 days ago

          Bullshit, if you care more about Orange Man Bad than the well being of Palestinians, you are not a fucking leftist.

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          it doesn’t matter, both parties are pro-genocide. trump explicitly saying it, and USians doing nothing about it precisely confirms that USians do not care anyways. At least now USians don’t have plausible deniability to hide behind.

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          17 days ago

          As ever, BlueMAGA libs care more about what politicians say than what they do.

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              17 days ago

              And you criticize calling for ethnic cleansing while actively praising the people who actually did ethnic cleansing.

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                17 days ago
                1. Other people in the thread have listed the concrete actions Trump has taken abandoning all pressure Biden put on Israel.
                2. There was a previous ceasefire while Biden was in office, and the current one was made under a framework created by the Biden administration.
                3. Israel has started an offensive in the West Bank.
                4. Do you honestly believe things would have gone better had Trump been in office for the entire war?
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                  Other people in the thread have listed the concrete actions Trump has taken abandoning all pressure Biden put on Israel.

                  Biden didn’t put any pressure on Israel. In fact, Trump has already put more on when he secured a ceasefire.

                  There was a previous ceasefire while Biden was in office

                  Genocide denier.

                  and the current one was made under a framework created by the Biden administration.

                  If by “created by the Biden administration” you mean it was the same one that Biden didn’t bother to force Israel to accept, then yes.

                  Do you honestly believe things would have gone better had Trump been in office for the entire war?

                  Given that Trump was willing to actually pull lightly on Bibis leash, yes.