Debunk from dev Pierre-Loup Griffais ‪@plagman.bsky.social‬

“we’ve done pre-release Mesa Vulkan work on every AMD architecture since Vega thanks to them kindly providing hardware, so there’s nothing meaningful to read into there.”

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  • Deconceptualist@lemm.ee
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    18 days ago

    This could be nice for folks that want a console-like living room experience that “just works”.

    Me? I built a Linux HTPC a dozen years ago and have periodically updated the graphics card (it gets the hand-me-downs from my main gaming PC) so I don’t need this. I’m far more interested in a Steam Controller 2 😄

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      18 days ago

      I built a Linux HTPC like a month ago. I tried a couple of different distros, mainly because the Xbox controller (that I bought new) didn’t work with any distro. The Playstation one works perfectly, but that Xbox mf is a lost cause (I’m going to change it for a tattoo lmao, and save for another Playstation controller).

      At the end, I landed on Bazzite distro and is working fine. The KDE plasma interface is really good (after like 10 years with Linux mint cinnamon, the plasma feel like I’m in the future)

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          17 days ago

          Don’t know why it works for some people and others not. If you look around for fixes is just a bunch of people asking for help and others answering that it worked fine for them.

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        18 days ago

        That’s a bummer, because I was considering the same thing and was wondering what Xbox controller support would be on Linux.

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          18 days ago

          I already had a ps4 controller (worked ok on Linux mint and perfectly with Bazzite), but wanted a second one to play with my wife, and I have seen people using Xbox controllers on Linux so I supposed it was “plug and play”, but not! You first need to connect it to an Xbox or a Windows PC to update the controller firmware (I don’t have any of those, had to ask my neighbor to update the controller on his PC). After this, the controller was supposed to work but it didn’t. This is were I learned that xbox controllers don’t use the standard Bluetooth protocol but a proprietary one.

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            This is were I learned that xbox controllers don’t use the standard Bluetooth protocol but a proprietary one.

            Is there a source for this? I play a few time vampire games on my iPad and use my xbox controller BT paired with it just fine. Haven’t had a single issue in a year or so.

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              17 days ago

              I had no problem with the controller on my android phone neither (test it like that to check if wasn’t the controller broke), but couldn’t make it work on any distro (tried an Arch distribution don’t remember the name, linux mint, fedora and bazzite (fedora based)).

    • LiveLM@lemmy.zip
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      18 days ago

      Ugh, tell me about it!!!
      Those SC2 leaks happened a while ago but we’ve still to hear anything official about it at all, sure hope they haven’t scrapped it…

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    18 days ago

    I think I’m part of steam machine’s target market. Games are leisure time. I don’t want to be worrying about processor-graphics cards combos. I don’t want to worry about which game runs, or optimising settings. I want to turn it on and have fun.

    Sadly, I’ve been in emulating recently just to get away from micro transactions so I have to spend a lot of time tinkering. First mini pc that flawlessly runs 360/PS3 and is less than £500 I’m getting it.

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      18 days ago

      You’ll have a long way to go on the software side before worrying about hardware

      Like you said though, just buy a prebuilt and you’re already there

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        18 days ago

        Like you said though, just buy a prebuilt and you’re already there

        As long as Microsoft doesn’t push an update that fucks up your machine, or you don’t boot for a few weeks and have to wait 2 hours for an update…

        Even the biggest Steam update takes a fraction of the time of a ‘routine’ Windows update. SteamOS/DeckOS is a huge quality of life upgrade over a desktop.

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          18 days ago

          Linux is the key there.

          All your complaints revolve around Windows.

          That being said, if you don’t want to fuck with computers any more than necessary, that route won’t be particularly pleasing until Valve can release their OS and Launcher updates, assuming they keep things user friendly.

          Linux gaming is leagues better than it was 20 years ago. Still hard to beat a fresh Windows install (key: fresh) and most certainly a console when it comes to ease of use.

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            18 days ago

            I’m a Debian guy but most of the people I know are stuck in the Windows ecosystem because it’s the only one most people know.

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        18 days ago

        I know. The SER 8 is damn close hardware wise, it could be in budget given a sale/voucher/what not. RetroGameCorps - mini pc spreadsheet

        I can start at ps1 to give emulators time to catch up.

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      18 days ago

      When the first Steam Machines were announced years ago, I assumed they’d all be running the same hardware like consoles do, and I thought that was actually quite a good idea because it could give game devs a sort of “baseline” set of hardware to aim for, as opposed to the sort of “vaguely make it run on Windows” system we seem to have currently. So if the new ones are all more-or-less the same kit like the Steam Decks are, and they take off well enough, it could be handy in that way I guess.

      Plus it’ll presumably run SteamOS so more Linux exposure which I always appreciate.

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    18 days ago

    I run Bazzite HTPC Version on my gaming rig, i would consider this the best console experience nowadays. A huge amount of games, no need to rebuy games i allready owned on a previous PC and most games run out of the box just fine.

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    17 days ago

    Overall, this makes sense. We’ve kind of acted like console gaming is somehow separate from computer gaming because of consoles exclusive monopolies on various titles, but it’s become much clearer over time that it’s actually PC which has been gather exclusive titles by… just… Being easy to develop for with no requirement to port? It looks more and more like we’re seeing PC taking over the gaming space more and more. Hopefully valve can pull this off right.

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      17 days ago

      There are still advantages to a fixed platform like the Steam Deck. It makes a fixed hardware platform to optimize for. Anything that runs on Deck should also run on another PC.

      Likewise, a Steam Box that was popular enough would provide a target hardware platform with higher spec.

      Most hardware manufacturers will have too high paced a release schedule, so unlikely to provide a stable hardware spec.

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    19 days ago

    Don’t they already have this? What is the Steam Deck, if not a rival to the PS5 and the Xbox ala the Switch? Shouldn’t the focus go into optimizing that space, as opposed to trying again at the home console market?

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      18 days ago

      Yeah I have a Steam Deck with a dock and bluetooth mouse & keyboard, it’s basically just a desktop PC lol.

      Although the Deck does struggle a bit with super high-end games, so a similar thing with beefier hardware could fill a niche there I guess?

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      The Switch was Nintendo giving up the spec race entirely to create an ok console and good handheld device.

      The Steam Deck copied the design ethos of the Switch. It is an ok gaming PC that is great for mobile gaming.

      A Steam console would be slightly different, but I could see it doing well, especially if it can become an entertainment center.

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      18 days ago

      I love my deck but it is absolutely not a rival to ps5 and xbsx. It can barely run new high end games at low settings.