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We are neighbors! I’m at 1342!!! (jk)
(does anyone remember the subr*ddit where everyone pretends to be in the same town?)
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Liar. All Ohio zip codes start with 4
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I snorted, I loves me some Breaking Bad copypasta haha
wtf is this a copypasta lol
It’s from the tv show Breaking Bad.
I know I am wary of doxxing myself, there’s so many times I’ve withheld commenting because my stories are too specific. I’ve probably shared too much already and do think about just starting over with a new account sometimes. This is my 4th account by now?
do think about just starting over with a new account sometimes.
That’s just a good practice. Change the handle with some regularity but it does get annoying to set everything up each time
We haven’t been infested by the vain Facebook crowd yet.
Personally, that crosses my mind. But I came over in the reddit revolt and saw lemmy as a fresh start. Privacy isn’t easy, but at least make them work for it.
Also, I figure (if it hasn’t happened already) some federated instances out there are nefarious, set up to harvest data.
We just had a helicopter doing low passed over our house and watching the flight on a tracker, it was clear it was casing chosen neighborhoods. The lengths someone went to sell whatever info they grabbed means it’s highly valuable. The fediverse is open and waiting for it to be datamined.
Also, I figure (if it hasn’t happened already) some federated instances out there are nefarious, set up to harvest data.
[Citations needed] or it didn’t happen. There’s precious little extra information that a “nefarious” instance can harvest that any basic web scrapper can’t.
[Citations needed] or it didn’t happen.
I think this mindset is naïve and unrealistic.
People were saying the same thing for decades in response to a small minority warning about government surveillance, often dismissing them with labels like “paranoid”. Eventually, Snowden came along and produced the citations, at extreme risk to himself and his loved ones. It’s an anomaly that they were ever revealed at all.
History is replete with examples of bad stuff going on for ages before irrefutable evidence of it became widely known. In general, if something can be abused to someone’s advantage, it will be, and likely already is.
There’s precious little extra information that a “nefarious” instance can harvest that any basic web scrapper can’t.
You have a point there, but consider also that effective web scraping uses significantly more resources than having the data you want handed to you. Monitoring Lemmy through federation would be much more efficient.
Good point
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An instance owner can only collect the IP addresses/brower fingerprints of users logged in to their instance. In other words, only slrpnk.net could collect that information about you, because you are only directly connecting to slrpnk.net.
Credit where due, it is just my best guess. I have no evidence.
I simply think if you have custom code on a machine to ingest data, creating a federation interface may be more suitable and stable in the long run than a scraper. The extra server load may draw attention or run amuck with security policies designed to obscure scrapers.
But that is certainly an option.
[Citations needed] or it didn’t happen.
This is such a bullshit challenge. I often see it used to essentially bully someone into a side issue about citations. It’s a great way to avoid discussing the original issue.
I have knowledge (that I rarely share) that I am absolutely not going to cite, because I’m not jeopardising sources, or clearances, or violating my obligations to the official secrets act just to play someone’s status games.
If someone makes a claim, I am perfectly able to go find the relevant citations myself, if there are any. I am more interested in the structure and content of what they’re adding to the discussion.
I often see it used to essentially bully someone into a side issue about citations. It’s a great way to avoid discussing the original issue.
You may well have, but that’s not what I’m doing. I’m familiar with ActivityPub’s & Lemmy’s APIs, and I’m calling bullshit on OP’s hyperbolic claim without evidence or elaboration.
So, from your knowledge of those APIs, this isn’t possible? I don’t need to develop a defensive protocol for it? I like to be comprehensive, especially with a potential (ideological and propaganda, if not literal) invasion from the new fascist state to my south, but if this is a low-level probability, I can put it way down my priority list.
If privacy is what you’re looking for, ActivityPub is never going to provide it, because it wasn’t designed for it and can’t be back-ported into it. You should log off and use (or create) something altogether else.
An instance is not even required to access our posts and some user information. Most pages are just public.
Yeah but instances are supposed to e.g. delete posts when the user deletes them. A malicious instance might not do that. Even without malice, I know this doesn’t always work because some weeks ago, I deleted a comment almost immediately after saving it, then kept getting upvotes for it; I found out this was because (at least) one very popular instance hadn’t deleted that comment, its users were still seeing it and upvoting it.
Yeah but instances are supposed to e.g. delete posts when the user deletes them. A malicious instance might not do that.
The Internet Archive or archive.today might keep them as well.
Yes, but that is less likely if they have been deleted very soon after creation.
Deletions have to propagate. Comments I deleted immediately after posting them still show up hours later for people on other instances. Archivers and crawlers have as many opportunities to record your deleted comment as there are lemmy instances federated to where you posted it.
I’d say more likely just:
- Not enough users to see that many stories being posted
- Not that many users to make it worth sharing detailled stories
- Lack of communities for that kind of content
You’re just not gonna see a lot of tales from retail in a place dominated by chronically online people, engineers, nerds and somewhat older userbase.
For people unaware, there is !casualconversation@lemm.ee
I’m aware of that one but it’s not that active especially compared to the big reddit communities like TalesFromRetail, AITAH, MaliciousCompliance, TalesFromTechSupport, etc which is where all the good stories come out of on Reddit.
Oh indeed, I was just promoting it to people unaware
People that have the need to share “personal stories” with basically strangers are looking for an audience first and foremost. Lemmy has way fewer people so the type of person trying to seek that attention will be going to facebook/twitter/reddit etc. If Lemmy was one of the top-ten most used sites, then we’d see a lot more of that kind of content.
Also, people who freely share details about their personal lives are generally not as particular about social media platforms. They’re likely to use whichever one they have heard of the most, or the one on which they already have an account, like Reddit. Lemmy is far from mainstream, so they’re not likely to think of it first, if they have heard of it at all.
I think it’s because most of those personal stories were attention-grabbing fakes and there’s fewer incentives to do that on Lemmy
I think it might be the case for some, but mostly I think that more people on Lemmy are less focused on themselves and personal anecdotes. More often I see people here reaching for cited resources to support what they’re saying instead of “Oh one time my Uncle’s friend’s cousin…”. It still happens here, but not nearly in the same capacity from what I’ve seen.
Settinging asside the likelyhood that many personal stories there are fantacy. There are just fewer people on this platform and probably the many new people from the last little bit are still testing the waters.
But primarily, I think nowadays people understand that if they put their data online anywhere, there is a chance someone could use it against them. Hence, people here are not doing it as much.
Nah, throwaways are easy
We don’t mind individual points for a story we like the feedback that people like our story, But most places aren’t even counting overall points. It’s not some reddit race to the top for who can have 300,000 karma. We’re here to actually chit chat and socialize and that’s just not conducive to throwing out a bunch of personal stories for shock and awe. Nobody is selling Lemmy accounts with 10,000 karma for bank.
Happy cake day!
Maybe?
No.
