i met plenty of people who’d like to fuck clowns and a total of zero who want to fuck libertarians. Clowns 1, Libertarians 0
Let me guess - that way you’re a mile away, and you have their shoes?
I walked my late teens/early twenties in those shoes. Would not recommend.
I remember those innocent days when I considered myself a libertarian. If you aren’t part of a marginalized group, and you consider yourself smart and responsible, AND most importantly assume that other libertarians are arguing in good faith with good priorities, some of what they say can seem to make a lot of sense.
But then when you look at the real-world motivations and results, they start to look like people who are down to to smoke weed while licking the same boot as a brown person.
You had me til brown person. Not quite sure what you mean, but I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt that it wasn’t meant as bigotry.
The whole libertarian movement smacks of the big brain thinking of entitled people in their 20s, and Joe Rogan’s fan club.
It paints with the same broad strokes as communism and like it, fails to acknowledge the real world outcomes: only the ideology matters, and adherence to it. Ignore or prosecute those who don’t implement it as intended or under the guiding assumptions.
The brown person thing was me referring to them being “socially liberal,” so they would share the same water fountain – or boot – as somebody of another race.
That quote refers to the “socially liberal and fiscally conservative” label that they like to use. Because part of the fun is saying that you love everybody and have no hate in your heart, but you definitely don’t want to spend any money or enforce any regulations to help people’s lives.
Please. Libertarians can always afford WAY more expensive shoes than that
whats a libertarian im not usaian
the word libertarian comes from anarchists (eg. libertarian socialists) however right wing anarchists (anarcho capitalists) have claimed the term, so now a libertarian is a right wing anarchist
Capitalist anarchism doesn’t exist. Capitalism is a form of unjust hierarchy (or if you want to stick to the literal meaning of “anarchism”: capitalism is a way to create rulers)
There are capitalist anti-statists, bit being against states isn’t sufficient to make you an anarchist for above reasons.
I say co-opt it back to its original leftist roots. I don’t mind calling myself a libertarian instead if I’m talking to a right winger who’s scared of anarchists and then just say “the socialist kind”. It’s a conversation starter to introducing a right winger to how one can believe a market free from capitalists (the best kind of free market) is actually not the worst idea ever
there are also people like me who are in the middle and think both the left and right have valid economic points and arguments but that authoritarian rule is gross.
Libertarianism is a spectrum just like authoritarianism.But minarchists are also libertarians. Libertarian is quite wide term. It also may include left-libertarians (anarchists).
Brother, that’s exactly the point I’m making.
I tried to simplify it, also I don’t think OP meant those other groups with the clown shoes
Probably they didn’t but it’s kind of like me saying all leftists are stupid when in fact I’m trying to criticize a specific group of left-leaning individuals who like large tracked vehicles
Watch this short video and realize they are the better half: https://youtu.be/PcllE7fx8-I
They are right wingers that want to be free of government meddling in the form of anti discrimination laws, taxes and drivers licenses. For some reason they also the consider age of consent to be a greater evil that the Pentagon.
They are right wingers that want to be free of government meddling in the form of anti discrimination laws, taxes and drivers licenses. For some reason they also the consider age of consent to be a greater evil that the Pentagon.
Yeah, pedo-nazis.
They want a white ethno state, where they can smoke meth and fuck kids. The whole “age of consent should be abolished to protect children who are essentially considered property of their parents until ages of majority because sometimes parents are really shitty to their kids” isn’t a solution to the stated problem. Proper funding, oversight and regulation of social programs such as child and family welfare/protection is significantly better than giving an easily manipulated child the right to consent. The only reason to make age of consent whenever a child can talk should be pretty obvious to anyone with half a brain.And guess what, if you abolished anti-discrmination laws, you’d end up with only WASPs allowed to vote, massively suppressed wages and limited if any social benefits for women or anyone not white.
They claim the be for all of those things, but then they line up behind whatever fascist the Republican party puts in front of them, when push comes to shove.
They’re full of shit.
Free market religious fundamentalists.
oh wait my physics teacher last year might be that
Libertarianism - The idea that a just society with fair rules is impossible because of the greed and selishness inherent in human nature. So by embracing this we can abolish all taxes and social safety nets, instead we would solve everyone’s problems through voluntary charity work, as after all humans are naturally giving and kind.
Yeah, clown shoes seem appropriate. I can somewhat respect a philosophy that I disagree with by saying “Well, that’s certainly a take, can’t say I’m on board.”
But I cannot if the problem isn’t that I disagree, it’s that it is self-refuting by its own logic.
Kinda like how Sam Harris’ Free Will Denial nonsense is bullshit simply by my own ability to decide for myself that it’s bullshit.
What did we do to you :(
Have dumb ideas
Destroyed attempts at American Singlepayer under the blatantly wrong assumption that for-profit companies lead by anonymous billionaires are somehow better at fairly using the ability to decide who lives and who dies than elected officials who have to maintain the support of their constituents to stay in power.
I’d personally rather align more with libertarianism than authoritarianism. But hey, different strokes for different folks.
Don’t you understand they’re the bad word gang and you don’t want to be associated with the gad word gang that I think is bad because it’s bad. Now let me ignore this other label that applies to me because I don’t want to understand that it’s worse bad. /S
I actually agree with libertarians more often than with communists, because being anti authoritarian is my most inportant value
The great revolution will come when humanity is ready to organize itself, not by force, but by the power of free association.
