Many cities at one time had trolley service which did local point to point connection. Then they were forced out because there was more profit in growing car dependency.
Capitalist government when public transport (a public service) is not making profits
There were forced out because they had to pay for the road surface but vehicles could use it for free and cause damage. They also would block the trolley because people have always been assholes.
More importantly they had contracts with the cities with set fares and the cities wouldn’t let them increase the fares so they went bankrupt. source
Fun fact: this is the premise of Who Framed Roger Rabbit
Yeah right, let me just walk to the supermarket XD
is back in 25 minutes with bag of grocceries
:o
“I don’t want to carry bags all that way!”
Here. Take a backpack.
Shopping trolleys have grown in popularity in Sweden in recent years, sort of like a rolling suitcase but with more space, specifically made for grocery shopping.
Personally, I use a pannier basket on my bike though. Best way to shop for sure
In Austrian cities we see an increase of cargo bikes
Car drivers hate them, but in the city you’re much faster with a bike anyway
I love shopping trolleys… But avoid the ones with multiple wheels for climbing stairs, they’re loud as hell on pavement.
the bicycle in question:
:D
1: I’ve taken the metro to get groceries loads of times
2: Trams
Trams are the shit
why would I take a train when the store is 3 minutes walking diatance
That’s literally communism and also the cause of everything wrong with the economy, that’s why!
My township is going through this
Vandalism, threats, people screaming in public, and so on; all afraid that the new area being built having stores within walking distance is a government conspiracy to restrict people’s ability to leave
…all the existing parts of town have grocers and shops within walking distance
Oh, they’re putting up road barriers? No? Are they taking away cars? Also no? Do the new shops create so much traffic that it’s just not feasible to leave? Also no?
Then how the hell are they restricting anything?
conspiracy
Oh right. I forgot what type of people we’re dealing with.
My condolences, best wishes and hopefully justified congratulations!
Driving is for free people, walking is for slaves! /s
The best is when the grocery stores are so close that you don’t need a car or a train. Japan does it right. You can always walk to at least one grocery store.
It’s not only Japan, I dare to say most countries have grocery stores within walkable distances.
It sure was great. We don’t have that at all in the US.
Greg is gonna shit on the floor when he’ll learn that happens everywhere in Europe.
In socialist Europe, I walk to the groceries, comrade… I take 15min train ride from home to work in the city center… and I wait no longer than 5 minutes on train because that’s its frequency… but I have no car…
Damn it must suck to live in such terrible conditions
If you have to take a train to the grocery, that’s a failure in local planning and a business opportunity. That said, not every store has everything and I, too, have taken a train to the grocery store for fancier/rarer things.
In some parts of rural Japan, we also have a grocery truck carrying staples and things you requested the last time they came from the actual store. This is a huge lifeline to some rural elderly people, but I don’t see why it couldn’t be more broadly applied in other areas.
I had two grocery stores in 5 minute walking distance. I had one store with more stuff, think also basic electronics, kitchenware, home appliances etc, in one station with the inner city train that was a 5 minute walk from my flat.
For years i did my groceries taking the train and i fail to see the problem. Just having to walk to the parking lot, get my car, drive to the store i can reach by train, then park there would have taken me twice as long even without traffic.
In inner cities cars are a liability for everyone including their driver.
We just have food delivery. You order and it arrives the next day, no delivery fee. Of course the sales usually aren’t as good as in typical stores but the general prices are almost identical. They deliver in cute little electric vehicles.
That’s cool. Though less bog in terms of infrastructure.
Holy based. Very cool
If the frequency is good enough, this isn’t a problem.
The best case scenario is as you mentionned : a grocery that you can walk easily, that has everything you need.
But having a light rail with high frequency makes it so that you can reach more area easily. And it also means that less dense part of the city still be serviced decently.
Taking a train to the grocery store only seems absurd to people who have never experienced a really efficient rail system.
You get what you pay for.
I beg these people to imagine a world where you don’t need to get in a vehicle to buy essentials.
Imagine? You mean remember? Like, surely, their ancestor’s memories to such but, yeah.
Working from home is the only way to really beat traffic.
No congestion at all. Not even an overcrowded train.
I get her point but trams!!!
I think she should see a city with trams and see how useful it is when implemented properly :)))
trams are the train’s cute younger sibling :)
This dude jokes but when I lived in Harlem I’d take the subway to Columbus circle Whole Foods as it was significantly easier than commuting to the east side on 125 to pathmark.
Ideally we could just fucking walk to a small grocery store instead of having to drive to one. Also would increase jobs with more foot traffic.
as a Dutchy, this confuses me greatly
Trains solve traffic issues
Elon brings shame to autists everywhere by not knowing about trains
Gregory does not have enough trains in his neighbourhood
yeah, the Netherlands is so nice with that, you bike to a station for 10 minutes and then its a 2 hour train ride to go anywhere in the country
WE ONCE HAD STREETCARS LOOK WHAT THEY TOOK FROM US
Still my favourite form of transport
the virgin bus route weeps and gnashes at the feet of CHAD STREETCAR
