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minus-squareMelllvar@startrek.websitelinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up7arrow-down29·13 days agoIt’s not involuntary, though. They have to apply for the program, and can stop if they want.
minus-squaretheonlytruescotsman@sh.itjust.workslinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up34arrow-down1·13 days agoUnless no one volunteers. Then they’re forced to do it upon threat of torture and further loss of rights, and usually more prison time added. There is nothing voluntary about labor coerced.
minus-squareMelllvar@startrek.websitelinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up4arrow-down28·13 days agoCitation needed.
minus-squarebobs_guns@lemmygrad.mllinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up9arrow-down1·13 days agoHave you tried thinking?
minus-squarequeermunist she/her@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up23·13 days agoDo you think there aren’t consequences for prisoners that refuse this “voluntary” service?
minus-squareGeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up12·12 days agoI’d like to introduce you to the concept of being “volun-told.” Basically, it’s “volunteer, or be forced. Your choice.”
minus-squareChuymatt@beehaw.orglinkfedilinkarrow-up4·12 days agoI might feel better about this program if they’re allowed to join after they get out of prison. But, because they were in prison, they are not allowed to join fire brigades. I feel that is cruel, and stupid.
It’s not involuntary, though. They have to apply for the program, and can stop if they want.
Unless no one volunteers. Then they’re forced to do it upon threat of torture and further loss of rights, and usually more prison time added.
There is nothing voluntary about labor coerced.
Citation needed.
Have you tried thinking?
Do you think there aren’t consequences for prisoners that refuse this “voluntary” service?
I’d like to introduce you to the concept of being “volun-told.” Basically, it’s “volunteer, or be forced. Your choice.”
I might feel better about this program if they’re allowed to join after they get out of prison. But, because they were in prison, they are not allowed to join fire brigades. I feel that is cruel, and stupid.