I feel like I need to say that if this was your experience you had a really shit therapist and deserve better. I’ve felt like this with a therapist before and it’s terrible. It’s ok to drop a therapist over this and try a different one.
My bet is this is fake. A large part of incel groups is making sure no one seeks help, so they stay longer. If you demonize therapists then that’s one more path to then existing removed.
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I know better than to assume that anything posted to 4chan actually happened, but I also know from personal experience that moments just like this one DO happen to people. So even if this particular story is a fiction or was intended to serve some other purpose, it’s portraying a familiar moment for many people and I wanted to acknowledge that and encourage people to seek better help.
But don’t seek it through Better Help.
😁 true that
I feel like I would be a better therapist than this and I have no training or desire to get in that field! But I sure as shit wouldn’t go out of my way to shame someone with low self-esteem who’s literally trying to improve themself. If that conversation was verbatim, I’m not exaggerating when I said the therapist should be suspended.
Find a better therapist. Just because someone goes to school and gets a professional credential doesn’t mean they don’t suck at their job.
Even if they aren’t bad at their job, someone who doesn’t have enough similarity of life experience to have a basic understanding of what you’re going through could be a bad fit anyway.
The whole “similarity of life experience” bit is the hard part if you’re an outsider without much in common with the liberal elites that make up the vast majority of therapists.
It’s really not a surprise that therapy is recommended pretty exclusively by people from the same demographic group as therapists, nor that people who get excluded from the highly exclusionary and non-diverse liberal society tend to strongly dislike the profession.
I can’t for the life of me figure out why you’re being downvoted. It’s absolutely true. Maybe it’s because people don’t understand what you mean by “liberal elites”? That’s not a synonym for democrat voters. It’s people who have been served by the status quo (neoliberalism) their whole lives and therefore see nothing wrong with it. Conservatives (especially the never trump or ambivalent about trump types) are just right wing liberals… conservatism falls under liberalism.
Liberal ≠ left.
because it ignores the fact that there are people with significant mental illnesses that have been failed by the status quo who are still able to receive help through therapy.
The comment only makes sense if you assume therapy is like the strawman presented in the greentext. Broadly speaking, there is widespread evidence that therapy is effective in helping people with mental illnesses survive and thrive in modern society. It’s not just for liberal elites to chat about their first world problems, even if that group is most likely to be scammed by an unqualified therapist. Unqualified therapists do exist, just like there’s shitty doctors and shitty dentists, because capitalism incentivizes shitty people to go into these fields for profit, but they’re a minority in an underutilized and stigmatized system.
Liberal elites are people like Bill Gates and Oprah. The 1%.
You should probably remove the spaces in the words therapy and therapists.
Bad habit from middle school when we used “therapist.com” as bait for overzealous admins trying to crack down on internet use.
I’d still trust those more than I would a therapist without even professional credentials.
That is one shitty therapist
I had the exact same conversation with mine, when I was 20.
It’s hard to believe that you’ll have a better experience elsewhere, especially when you have already spent hundreds of € on that one.
Say no to therapists, say yes to callgirls. They charge less too.
Lots of shit therapists out there.
A friend of mine, his ex-wife’s therapist encouraged her to have an affair. An old highschool fling reached out to her, and she was essentially perpetually stuck in highschool due to some intense trauma around that age. Therapist said to go for it.
Always look at a potential spouse’s friends before getting married. Do they cheat, slack off, and just generally kind of suck? Your spouse-to-be will almost certainly follow their example. I say this because most people’s “therapist” are their friends and if their friends are maladjusted assholes you can probably expect more of the same.
On today’s episode of Bullshit That Never Happened…
As someone who’s had a uh… not great experience with mental health care, this story is totally believable to me.
My wife should be in therapy but has entirely sworn it off after her last therapist would gossip to clients about other clients, especially clients who are related or know eachother well, and tried to play matchmaker, giving her contact info and sharing some of her struggles with another client of his who happened to be finishing up a prison sentence at that time. He runs his own practice because he was fired from the last one for HIPPA violations, and instead of being thankful his old boss didn’t entirely ruin him he just is resentful that he got fired for engaging in what should be career-ending activities
That therapist needs to lose their license yesterday.
And probably see some jail time, as well as a class action lawsuit.
they wouldn’t see jail time but they could be sued in a civil suit. they’d certainly never practice again once they get some eyes on them. they seem to have a pattern of fucking up
I think they should see jail time. The current law would probably not support jail time, but I do think that should be on the table for breaching a confidentiality agreement like this.
if you want to, you can DM me for some help with reporting this person to your state or province licensing board. not just for your family but for everyone that bastard is seeing. this is a disgusting abuse of the profession, but it’s VERY easy to take action against
This is sadly all too believable but I’m happy for you that all of your experiences with therapy have been so positive that this seems impossible
This belongs here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Showerthoughts
I had a therapist that eventually deemed me too dangerous to myself to be in their care, so she upgraded me to super-therapy where I have to go like 9 hours a week and work with a group and like 5 therapists but I still don’t get much value out of it :c so yeah, therapy definitely isn’t for everyone
sounds like providing good therapy isn’t for every therapist
that’s probably more accurate, I probably just need to find a better therapist
You need to find your fit just like in love or friendship because it’s a highly personal relationship that you’re trying to develop with that person.
Ironic, considering most of us who need therapy struggle with relationships
You now have 5 therapists to choose from though
level of care determinations are an important part of therapy. let’s not just bandwagon here.
sounds like you got bumped up to a higher level of care. are you in IOP? that’s quite standard, especially for someone struggling severely but doesn’t want to go to inpatient
some therapists freak out a bit over suicide risk a bit much, but there’s a good chance that their recommendation was justified and the right call. I recommend talking about your frustration with your original therapist if possible, or just your favorite of the 5 if not.
I hope you’re getting a lot of good skills
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TheRapist
Either:
- boink therapist
- complain to professional body that therapist tried to seduce you
or 3. ask therapist out
Why not both?
When your therapist is trying to trick you into labelling yourself an incel.
This is a good opportunity to ask why sex work is still illegal (unless you’re rich ofc) in the US.
We could basically end the incel phenomenon and deal a huge blow to the sex slavery trade overnight (and for very little cost to taxpayers or society) by making sex work legal and bringing it into daylight.
Sex work is illegal because giving people the ability to use something they own (their body) as their own means of production removes a barrier to success, causing some of the power to slip away from the owning class. If I can charge $200 an hour for hole rental services I don’t have to work a corporate job, which means my labor can’t be exploited. This is (for the owning class) of course a bad thing.
Don’t have anything to add as I agree, just wanted to say your username gave me a chuckle!
…Unless I’m actually an idiot and it wasn’t a geology pun lol :P
It is a pun thank you I worked really hard on that username 🥹
Sex work is legal! Maybe not in your puritanical shithole, but in sane countries it is.
Really? You are willing to shag anybody for merely $200? Or, more probably, 4 people for 50$ each?
Don’t oversimplify this whole problem. It is, like almost all problems, not a black and white problem.
It’s literally impossible for people to figure out price points for goods and services. This is famously why free markets have never existed.
My friend i’ll shag people for free.
very little cost to taxpayers or society
How would it be a cost, surely it would be a net positive since we can now tax something that’s already being done, no?
I see no downsides, provided there are restrictions on advertisement and where they can set up shop. I’m not interested in it at all, but I am interested in reducing sex slavery, arrests of women (and men!) who are just trying to feed their kids, etc. My general philosophy is that if someone wants to do a thing, and it doesn’t violate anyone else’s rights, there should be a legal way to do that thing.
It would need to be regulated to ensure that people are doing this work freely and responsibly (not being compelled by a pimp or spreading STDs). No regulation enforcement is free. It would be a net positive, sure, but not free.
Sure, but regulation is implied by having it be “legal” instead of decriminalized. It would more than pay for itself w/ tax revenue.
Weird. That’s an awesome intrusion point to get into the depth of why they think they didn’t succeed and from there … piece of cake on the professional side, hard and emotionally tiring work on the patients side! What a shitty therapist. This was ist… the trust check and she blew it.
You shouldn’t criticize the nonexistent therapist.
Yeah I know. But people needing therapy reading this should know that this is an example for a bad decision in therapy.
There are too many are to many psychologists out there who are acting out their own issues on their patients/jobs. Especially in clinical environments. They all need to go to therapy themselves (which is natural, given their demanding job) but don’t because their are too vile.
Anon is attractive and has a shit therapist?
I went to five therapy sessions and it was like a speed run of college theory on CBT. Dude never stopped talking and we never talked about me or my problems.
I find it funny how many therapy stories on this platform are about cock and ball torture (CBT). Is that an American thing because of health insurance? /s
Jokes on you I’m into that shit
Don’t knock it if it works.
Phake n Gaie
Men: never go to a female therapist, they will NEVER be able to understand you from a man’s perspective. All they see is abundance, with men chasing them and paying attention to them, and will never understand how few choices those men in the bottom-80% are left with.
Uhh Ohh
Well, yes, what did you expect?
