When going to use Adobe express on Firefox it comes up with the following message, saying that this browser doesn’t play well with others and that I should use Safari, Google Chrome, or Microsoft Edge instead.
Sounds like it’s Adobe that doesn’t play well with others.
Yeah, Adobe sucks.
“Firefox gives the user too much control, so we decided to introduce incompatibility and then blame it on Firefox. Since we’re a huge software company, we could easily fix this… but we won’t. That’s okay, though, because we wrote a cute error message. Enjoy!”
Firefox blocks our trackings so we won’t allow you to use it. Accept our tracking or get lost.
I’d assume Adobe was a bad actor sooner than Mozilla. Adobe is a big-time fan of DRM and dark patterns.
So tired of all the asshat sites that only test in Chrome and call it a day. Did none of them live through the IE-only era of the web??
Firefox and Safari are the sole exception to the monoculture that is the Blink engine. Most developers just use whatever comes in the latest Chromium and call it a day - for them accommodating for less than 20% of the market when they can simply join the 80% is wasting time in the long tail of the Pareto rule. Which is why I loathe Google having so much de facto power on the W3C.
Windows is such a shitty platform, with each update they force you to use their browser it’s insane, the ammount of popups and shit they push onto you it’s just crazy. If you browse in windows they sometimes give you web results that you can only see inside of Bing where you get 10 popups to get Edge, now they are introducing some AI Copilot assistant built in into windows that also forces you to use Bing and install Edge in every step you take.
If you want to use Firefox I highly recommend using Linux since Windows is spying to you anway so it’s not even worth bothering with not using Edge on there.
What. I’m no Windows fanboy but this is FUD.
I try to do my part to resist the monoculture by using Firefox everywhere I can, from mobile to my work computers. It’s true that I do run into sites that just break because everybody uses Chrome. Well, I’m somebody who isn’t using it. I will be the change I want to see in the world, even if in the grand scheme of things, it doesn’t matter.
I love Firefox and have used it for years, but lately it’s development seems troubled. Features aren’t working like they used to, and increasingly they are throwing more bloat at the whole thing.
I worry it’s not long for this world at this rate.
Oh yeah, and if the desktop Firefox could just fucking sync my passwords to mobile, that would be great.
My desktop Firefox syncs my passwords to Firefox for Android quite well.
However, yeah, I do think that Firefox’s development over the years has gone a bit awry with the attempt to out-Chrome Chrome. It’s still the best browser out there, though.
Switch to Librewolf and Mull
Librewolf is great but the fact they make it so ridiculously difficult to make google the default search engine is soo dumb.
They are definitely sending a message
Yes, I am sadly well aware of the prevailing situation.
But on the other hand, by and large complete cross-browser HTML compliance is not that hard though. A couple extra couple hours to verify your code works everywhere instead of just the one engine isn’t all that huge a sacrifice. I really feel like probably 9 out of 10 companies are putting up barriers to Firefox just because they are lazy not because it doesn’t work (or couldn’t work with a couple tweaks.)
I mean if we are being realistic vast majority of users use Chromium based browsers and they don’t even see it as worth bothering with, that doesn’t justify anything but just pointing out the mindset of these companies.
Report to webcompat, and try using a user agent switcher like this one to fool the site into thinking you’re using chrome and see how it works
It is pretty much impossible to completely spoof a gecko engine for something else.
The vast majority of sites just check the user agent string, so this is not really an issue.
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People need to be spamming regulators, not just the compact. All the compact can do is “work with” websites that don’t fuction with Firefox. They have zero authority. Attempting to appeal to these websites, Adobe especially, based on the ideals of the open web is laughable.
We have to accept that companies like Adobe aren’t cooporating with Firefox, not because they can’t be bothered to support it, but becasue it is hostile to their monitization and therefore deliberatly ignored. I’m also going to put on my tinfoil hat here and guess Microsoft is behind the scenes whispering into every ear they can reach about how forcing all coorporate web use into the Edge browser is more “secure and manageable”.
This is something that needs regulatory intervention. Appealing to the corporate framers of the “new” internet is hopeless.
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It’s one of their open tabs, actually.
What happens when the maintainer decides they don’t care?
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That’s not quite accurate. If the site is popular enough Mozilla may ship a webcompat intervention in Firefox.
Thanks Firefox. Adobe is literally a malware. Check with the sysadmin community
Pretty much this TBH. Like, complaining that Adobe doesn’t want to support Firefox is like complaining because your Norton Antivirus doesn’t like your VPN. It’s kinda to be expected.
Combining that with all the anti-Microsoft talk in the thread just makes it funnier to me, as a combination Linux and Windows user who uses almost an entire program suite of free or cheap alternatives to the big names (Krita/Blender/etc. instead of Adobe, Firefox, LibreOffice, etc.)
Am I the weirdo?
In that you aren’t simply pirating the stuff because Adobe’s cracked to hell and back? Makes you an outlier I’d bet, but it’s not weird.
Pirating the stuff wouldn’t counter a lot of my ethical reasons for not using Adobe (and would arguably undermine them too.)
I don’t like the idea of a single-sourced software solution becoming the basis for entire creative and professional industries. Hardware either, for that matter, but that’s a different issue.
So I don’t use Adobe. I avoid using MS Office.
Probably a silly hill to die on if it comes down to it, but I turned down a 1700 dollar free Macbook on principle.
And because I know it will come up:
No, I don’t like relying on Windows for things either, hence as much of my suite of software being cross-platform as possible.
I’m willing to go Windows more than Apple simply because, while Windows has a bit of a stranglehold, it’s one of apathy rather than malice (like I feel much of Apple’s exclusivity and control is.) Windows’ hold on gaming and productivity markets is dying as Linux gains a stronger foothold, as it should.
I’m skeptical if it really doesn’t. Maybe it works if you switch the browser’s user agent, maybe.
Switched my browse agent like and it seemed to work fine. Adobe just sucks.
Is that even legal?
Edit: to clarify, is it even legal for a company to block access to a website based on the browser the user chooses, even if there are no apparent technical reasons.
As someone that is the manager of a web app for a FANG company, it’s not easy to support everything. Right now we don’t support Firefox because the APIs we use (and don’t own) don’t support it. To enable support is then dependent on those other companies/teams to add support which can sometimes be years to develop. Chrome is easier to support because it’s based on Safari and so many other browsers use it as well.
How is Chrome based on Safari?
Google used Apples WebKit and is still closely aligned to it.
Edit: So while technically Chrome is not a fork of Safari, they used enough of Apples tech that personally I don’t think it can be considered a uniquely independent product.