Summary
The “femosphere,” a growing online space for women, mirrors the misogynistic “manosphere” with toxic ideologies, including anti-gender equality views and strategies to “conquer” men.
The term describes communities like Female Dating Strategy and “dark feminine” influencers who reject liberal feminism, advocating traditional gender roles as empowering.
“Femcel” influencers urge their followers to give up on gender equality and use men for financial gain – in the name of feminism.
Critics warn these spaces mix conservative and feminist ideas, creating “anti-feminist feminism” that appeals to those disillusioned with mainstream feminism.
While less linked to violence than the manosphere, researchers caution against its potential for radicalization and harm.
In the femosphere, as in the manosphere, there’s an overarching belief that life is about survival of the fittest, that men will always hurt women and that will never change, so strategies are needed to conquer the opposite gender.
I’m not a massive fan of the guy they nailed to a tree 2000 years ago for saying maybe people should be nice to each other once in a while, but the violent reaction to that suggestion no longer surprises me.
Look we just need to move around small bits of green paper and everything will be fine.
And then the Vogons show up…
Oh freddled gruntbuggly
Thy micturations are to me
As plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid beeApologies for misspellings. That’s from memory.
It’s okay. The important thing is you counterpointed the realism of the underlying metaphor of whatever it was the poem was about.
I think you might have a future in poetry. That was deeply moving.
Really? I was tortured.
That guy is a made up story. No more, no less.
Edit: oh my, so much salt. Just keep downvoting me if it makes you cope better with the facts. It’s OK.
That’s not really my point.
Lots wrong in this article…
“I used to be a feminist before I saw the effects of third wave feminism,” Batra said. “This has forced women into masculine roles where they are pursuing men.”
But that’s dumb, for a shit ton of reasons it works out best when women are the ones who first show interest rather than men hitting on anything that moves
Do you mean there’s lots wrong in the movement or the actual article because that’s just a direct quote
I meant there are lots of things wrong in the article.
But that quote was dumb.
I realize that’s almost exactly word for word what I said the first time, but I can’t think of any easier way to say it.
It’s two distinct statements, I guess it would have been clearer to put:
But:
“Quote”
Instead of putting the “but” after the quote but that just seemed cumbersome and it flowed better keeping the text together
Ah gotcha, I misunderstood
The gender war continues, and my nonbinary ass is sitting back and not getting involved.
The best part about being in the middle is that both teams hate you! /s
I personally identify as a non-conforming man and the amount of hate I get from traditionalists on both sides is deeply disappointing.
Yeah, people feel threatened by any behavior that doesn’t conform to their norms. I practice apathy towards their attitudes, and keep an eye out for violence.
Ditto, given my ADHD, love of fantasy and other things I’ve always been an outsider. Their judgment is their problem - my partner loves me as I am and that’s not only the opinion I care about the most but also the only one that’s really relevant since I’ve no intention of forming either a platonic or romantic relationship with any hater.
The only real thing that hurts is when my expression hurts my loved ones. I recently had to go to a funeral in the south and I dressed normally for my flights and transit but eschewed a skirt and wore slacks to the ceremony.
Thankfully as a large man, while I’m a friendly giant, I am a giant and physical threats are extremely rare. But I do have trans friends who have faced real danger.
First they came for the gendered minorities…
Thankfully this is a community that was left on reddit. Same with the manosphere.
There seems to be a lack of gender culture war bs on lemmy that you see on a lot of other platforms. It’s good that there is a pretty progressive consensus on gender here. Probably enforced by a legion of trans people, and to that I say thank you for your service.
They had this some 20 years ago, only then it was called “The Rules”.
“It’s incredibly conservative, but it’s trying to reframe it as being this empowering strategy.”
I’m ok with this on one condition…
I guess they have been empowered to choose how to live thwir lives as they please.
I’m here for it. Andrew Tate and his garbage made the bottom rung of men extremely visible and avoidable. Now the bottom rung of women will be emboldened to express their smooth brains too. They both can all fall in love and feed each other’s rage endorphin addiction.
Thanks for sharing this. TIL that femcels exist.