For those not familiar with DragonFucker/Rider/Drag:
Dragon uses the pronoun “drag” in place of “I”, “drag’s” in place of “my”.
They wouldn’t say:
I like cheese. Blueberry isn’t my favorite. I know what my heart wants.
They would say:
Drag likes cheese. Blueberry isn’t drag’s favorite. Drag knows what drag’s heart wants.
Beyond whether or not they literally think they are a dragon, going to marry a dragon, beyond even using ‘drag’ as a custom neopronoun that normally replaces 3rd person pronouns…
They are using what they call their own custom first person pronouns, but this reads to basically every English speaker as constantly referring to themselves in the 3rd person by using their own nickname, akin to the royal ‘we’.
Dragon has told me that they don’t see “drag” as a nickname, but as a pronoun.
… I don’t think they are trolling, in the sense of just doing something annoying to get a rise out of people, a voluntary activity one choses to do consciously.
Their grammatical behavior is consistent across all their posts, they don’t only engage in it from time to time.
I’ve even had a few conversations with Dragon where I’ve attempted to explain that half of the hate they get and arguments they get into stem from people misunderstanding what they are saying, because of their extremely niche way of using pronouns.
They’ve told me, directly, that my understanding of how their pronouns work is correct, and that this proves that their pronoun/grammar style is thus not confusing, and that eventually everyone will just adapt and understand them.
…Despite the fact that I told them I had to do like an hour worth of research to figure out how this all actually works, which Dragon … intially chastized me for, saying it was all clearly evident from their profile (it wasn’t), and that I did not need to do that much research…
…even though I seem to be the only person I am aware of explaining Dragon’s grammar/pronoun style in every thread we both happen to be in where most other people are just misunderstanding them and that leading to arguments.
Anyway, I’ve never heard of anyone using custom pronouns for “I” and “my” until Dragon.
Ever.
I myself am queer, have run in many circles with many lgbtqia folks, and I’ve even dated a queer person legitimately diagnosed with DID, and not even they would use their own custom first person pronouns for their alters, or the collective system of alters as a whole…
I wonder if their point is basically to stress test the pronouns system we have,
e.g. make people think about why we use them and why we need thembasically doing something to an extreme to show the issues/benefits it entails
I’ve seen some people refering themselves with their own name, though all of them is online and haven’t met one irl.
Also if people watch We Bare Bears, Ice Bear always refering himself as “Ice Bear” and never “I”. No one watching the show seems to hate him, however.
Personally i don’t really care, not sure what’s the fuss around Drag using it tbh.
Edit: it seems there’s more to this story i’m not aware of after reading all the comment, if that’s the case i might’ve mistaken the situation :/
Also now i do remember meeting someone that refer to herself in 3rd person.
First of all, thanks for your explanation. That made everything clear. Secondly:
and I’ve even dated a queer person legitimately diagnosed with DID
What does DID mean?
Dissociative Identity Disorder.
Colloquially known as multiple, or split personality.
Ay bro who cares.
If you enjoy debating this stuff find that space.
If you are bothered by it let it go.
If someone can’t be weird on the Internet when can they be weird? Like let people do their thing man
Dude you don’t gotta announce your departure
It’s crazy what people make a drama about not being able to harass someone who doesn’t use he, she or they
Well, that certainly is one of the paragraphs of all time.
Get Glomph’d on! Thankfully I’ve never met someone who actually wants people to refer to them as dragonkin outside of FFXIV roleplay servers.
what a way to start a drama over a fucking joke
I mean, I’m a Taurus, a gamer (ttrpg kind, i don’t use the gamer word), and identify more with cats than dogs, but none of that is gender related nor gets it’s own pronouns. heck I’m a transhumanist so i fully get the desire to not be human, but its all a little dumb imo ┐(シ)┌
That said, i just ignored the guy you’re talking about and enjoyed more interesting conversations. Like the topic of pronouns in general! We absolutely could use better ones
Personally I blocked the guy a long time ago
I didn’t even know what was going on around here until I dug into it and found the source the situation
PJ is a smug neolib who hates anyone but the status quo.
Love how drag lives rent free in your head. Seriously, get a hobby dude, obsessing about a trans person this much is not healthy.
At any point you could have simply blocked drag, but no, engaging with drag is so much better, isn’t it? Now you’ve made posts upon posts and comments upon comments about how blahaj is weird, about how drag does not deserve to have drag’s pronouns respected, and how admins/mods/whatever on blahaj are bad.
To what end? To tell the greater user base that your opinion is superior? To make it known that drag is weird and in turn potentially cause drag to be harassed? To have the admins and mods be harassed? To have individual users with non-standard pronouns harassed?
You say you don’t care and wish Blahaj well, but your posts and comments say otherwise. My friend, it might not have been your goal, but your posts and comments are rather inciting in nature, people will get harassed because of you.
Dont let the door hit your ass on the way out! If you think gatekeeping someone else’s identity is acceptable behavior in explicitly trans friendly spaces, then I’ll be happy to have less of you in my feed.
Drag is a perfectly fine user.
Drag is not a tankie. Drag is not a fascist. Drag is not a bigot, not a paedophile, not a scammer, not a rapist, not a billionaire, not any manner of individual that you should be directing your rage toward. Drag is a respectful member of the queer community, like you, like me, or like anyone else. That alone in my books makes a friend, and not an enemy. So what, I had to take ten seconds to connect the pronoun “drag” to what I already know about language?
I, personally, don’t find it a major inconvenience to show a little kindness. Also, drag is cute, in my opinion.