Unencrypted chat history is a prime target for police

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/1874605

A 17-year-old from Nebraska and her mother are facing criminal charges including performing an illegal abortion and concealing a dead body after police obtained the pair’s private chat history from Facebook, court documents published by Motherboard show.

  • Jackthelad@lemmy.worldEnglish
    421·
    1 year ago

    This the same company that owns WhatsApp and is so dead against unencrypting messages on that platform? 🤔

    • Monomate@lemm.eeEnglish
      334·
      1 year ago

      To be fair, if the mother/daughter communicated through WhatsApp they’d not be caught, because it’s an end-to-end encrypted messaging platform. But as they chose FB Messenger, they got vulnerable to a court order forcing Facebook to hand over data.

      • preacher37@lemmy.worldEnglish
        11·
        1 year ago

        Is WhatsApp open source? Even Signal I’m a bit on edge, why would you trust WhatsApp which is owned by Facebook?

        • Monomate@lemm.eeEnglish
          242·
          1 year ago

          WhatsApp was not created by Facebook. It used to be an independent company which major selling point was offering free encrypted messaging to the masses, which was mostly relevant to non-US users as they’re charged for SMS usage more directly (it doesn’t come free and unlimited on most plans).

          It was bought by Facebook in 2014 and by 2016 they implement end-to-end encryption. There’s already various cases of courts around the world trying to compel WhatsApp to hand over messages but they didn’t because they simply don’t store the messages on their servers, and when the messages pass through their servers they’re encrypted by design.

            • Monomate@lemm.eeEnglish
              3·
              1 year ago

              Ops, my bad. I was under the impression the only reason WhatsApp is encrypted today is because they already were by the time FB bought them.

              They paid US$ 20B to buy WhatsApp, and encryption is a major deterrent for them scanning all messages to enhance their targeted advertising business.

                • Monomate@lemm.eeEnglish
                  1·
                  1 year ago

                  Maybe you’re right, but I’d be hesitant to say WhatsApp user’s contacts list would be worth US$ 20B.

                  My theory is they bought WhatsApp just because it was organically growing to be the dominant messaging app, and Facebook didn’t want to lose this marked and bought them to squash the competition.

          • pips@lemmy.filmEnglish
            2·
            1 year ago

            That said, the messages are stored locally on the device or in a cloud backup unless you disable that. If the device is unlocked, the messages are available to whoever has the device.

            • Monomate@lemm.eeEnglish
              2·
              1 year ago

              At this point we’re discussing the mother/daughter screen locking policy. It doesn’t matter what messaging app they use, if they rely solely on Face/Touch ID, the police may force then to unlock their phone anyway.

      • PineapplePartisan@lemmy.worldEnglish
        78·
        1 year ago

        E2E only protects data in transit. Unless the pair also encrypted their data at rest, their messages will still be easily accessed in plain text by their cloud backup.