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      A15 + 5g both have a headphone jack and can be unlocked apparently. Probably the A25 versions too.

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        Useful advice

        Edit: it appears that this is only accurate for the models not sold in North America

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        I mean, I can count how many times I’ve thought “damn I wish I still had wired headphones” on zero hands.

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          My complaint has always been that the stupid things need to endlessly be recharged.

          I’ve got some AirPod Pros and they’re great… for about 4 hours.

          Then you’re stopping what you’re doing, recharging for half an hour, and then you’re good for uh, another 3 hours because that wasn’t a full charge.

          And after the 2nd or 3rd time you’ve done that, your case is dead and you get to throw everything on a charger for a couple of hours.

          Ooooooooor I can put in my wired headphones, and not give a shit about any of that, because that’s not how those work at all.

          I suppose most people don’t spend most of their day listening to podcasts and audiobooks and thus 4 hours is fine, but good lord is it annoying as crap.

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            I had a similar problem. If thats your only limiation, check out the audiotechnica ATH-CKS50TW. Really excellent sound quality, the headphones themselves have 12hrs continuous use and the headphone case holds 24hrs of charge. Has full noise cancelling, and the headphones can be used independently of one another like airpods.

            I can wear them on the bus to work, all day at work, and then on the ride home and still have an hour or two of charge left over before I have to put them back in their case.

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            You have airpod pros but spending $5 USB-Aux adapter is where you draw the line?

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              But then you always need that adapter with you and you can’t charge at the same time

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                You can leave it attached to the end of your headphone wire

                If the latter is a concern, there are adapters that allow this as well, which, you can also leave attached to the end of your charging cord

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            Do airpods really suck that much? I’ve used the Anker ones for years, for about an hour 3-5 times a week, and I need to charge them… maybe once every six weeks? It’s infrequently enough that I hardly notice.

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              They really do.

              The sound great, and the ANC is great, but the “official” battery life for a brand new one (which these are not) is “up to 4.5 hours” with ANC on, and 5 without it.

              It ends up being 2-3 charge cycles basically every day, plus a full recharge of the charging case.

              They do, however, work amazingly well if you’re in the Apple ecosystem; for example they’ll swap between my iPad and Mac Mini if audio starts on one or the other.

              But for actually sitting down with something and listening to a thing, I’d rather just plug in some headphones (via the lovely USB-C dongle) and not have to think about if the stupid things are going to die before I’m ready to stop listening.

              (Disclaimer: I’m also a weirdo who doesn’t carry a smartphone, and still uses an iPod for listening to stuff outside of the house, so feel free to roll your eyes and disregard my obviously bad opinions :P )

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                Sound great? Either you’ve never had a pair of cans on, or you might want to consider getting your hearing checked. The membranes in airpods are too small to recreate full frequency spectrum. Yeah, they’re more clear than the earbuds of yore, but they can’t hold a candle to my $30 Gemini DJ headphones. No, they don’t have any noise canceling, but I like to hear the car that’s about to run me over when I’m out and about, and if you turn em up a little you won’t hear anything else anyway. Never have to charge, and pure, clean sound including REAL bass and not some distorted “bass boost”.

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                  Might have been unclear; I listen basically exclusively to spoken word stuff. Podcasts, audobooks, “raido” plays, etc.

                  The Airpods actually sound remarkably good and clear (and ANC helps a lot with ensuring clarity anywhere even slightly noisy) with voices, so for my uses, they sound perfectly fine.

                  I have a pile of Chi-Fi earbuds that absolutely destroy them in sound quality for music, but it’s very much a 99.9% of the time it’s not music situation.

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          Must be nice to either accept the objectively worse sound quality of wireless headphones, or be wealthy enough to afford a product that sounds almost as good as the wired version does for ten times the price and just not care about it getting stolen.

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            I care a moderate amount about audio quality, but my bigger gripes with Bluetooth generally involve the latency and inconvenience of switching devices (even with multipoint).

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            IDK about you, but in the environments where I’d use headphones with my phone are not environments where I’m capable of noticing the audio difference between bluetooth and wired.

            Ten times is an extreme exaggeration unless you’re really at the bottom end of earbuds. Decent quality bluetooth headphones aren’t that much more expensive.

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            If I cared that much about audio quality, I wouldn’t be listening to music on my phone anyway.

            I’m not sure which product you’re referring to that’s ten times the price. You can get quality monitors for around $200. I don’t know of any Bluetooth headphones that are going to match that quality at any price, but you can get close enough for the majority of purposes in the same price range. The biggest issue will be the Bluetooth audio codec and the wireless link itself (signal strength and latency), not the sound reproduction quality.

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                  If you going to complain about that, never listen to a CD or any other digital format. Let me guess, only vinyl is pure?

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            be wealthy enough to afford a product that sounds almost as good as the wired version does for ten times the price

            Or maybe just go buy a $5 adapter so you can use your wired headphones

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          I dunno, how about the horrible privacy practices of most cars nowadays? Bluetooth allows connection, sure. It also allows data to go between the device and the car. An aux jack can’t do that.

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            An aux jack can’t do that.

            Really? Because there are aux jacks that allow for voice and volume control. Seems to me like they could make one for “real data”.

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              Well, if they can, that’s interesting. But the method used to control volume and a mic are a hell of a lot simpler than transferring data. You’d need an expanded jack with extra circuitry afaik.

              At that point, you’re over to a usb cable, which is where all this starts.

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                I mean, it’s all just electrical signals. They could simplify the data for such a transfer. The volume and mic do have an extra wire or two in them, but those are still made no bigger than those without, and the jack just has an extra ring or two on it for the connection. Most everybody is oblivious to the presence of those rings. So, I would say it’s totally possible, but is it worth it money-and-effort-wise?

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                  Well, there’s a difference between analog and digital. So, no matter how you cut it, if the aux jack is there, making it do double duty is essentially turning it into a usb port.

                  You can’t really send much data at any kind of useful speed over the size and types of wiring in even the more complicated headphone wires, which usually aren’t even present in an actual aux cord that’s got a plug on each end.

                  The level of data transfer over Bluetooth is both higher, and is already set up to move data like the cars nowadays scrape.

                  So, while it would conceivably be possible to make new aux cords that are beefed up to do it, and make the jacks in both phones/tablets and head units interpret the signals, it isn’t so much whether or not it’s worth it money wise, it’s will the car owners and passengers buy it?

                  The connectors, as is, have a limited number of connections, poles. To change that, you have to make the plugs and jacks bigger, or radically redesign them.

                  From a “worth it” standpoint, they’re already taking the cheaper way out of trying to force everyone to use the Bluetooth that’s already built in. Get device makers to stop having jacks, stop putting them in cars, and the problem is solved on their end. It then falls to the consumer to find a way around that.

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          To be honest, I’ve used Bluetooth headphones before Android was even a thing (stupid W850i proprietary ports and all) and love them.

          However, dickhead here just put my Soundcore buds through the wash so there is argument for me having a backup which this Poco F6 is now lacking.

          It’s a silly divisive topic IMO which is never gonna be solved when blog authors put out articles like the above.

          :(

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      It’s not crazy to want to keep using your excellent wired headphones and not rely on battery powered bullshit

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        I have a pair of Etymotics that i have had for 20 years, ficks no 3.5mm jack. Have a Nokia phone I use that has uSD and earphone jack.

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        It is when you act like adapters don’t exist

        This is written by someone who’s using IEMs on a pixel, this weird obsession with jacks on the phones should have died years ago

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          They turn a robust connector into a fragile piece of shit, 1/2 ass’d compromise is the best description.

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          I’m using IEMs on a pixel too, with a jack as intended not some bullshit dongle.

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      My daily driver is a Poco F2 Pro which has the jack port.

      My car is old and I still wire it to the speakers for using Spotify and such, my gf has to use the adapter thingy for her iPhone and she can’t charge and play music at the same time, I can do that without an issue.

      Too bad companies keep getting rid of ports.

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        A fellow F2 Pro owner here. I don’t have use for the aux port that often, but whenever I do, it’s great! Older cars, mixers, etc, everything is just plug and play like it should be.

        However the notorious charging port ribbon cable seems to have broken again and this might be some of the last things I write with the phone :(

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          However the notorious charging port ribbon cable seems to have broken again and this might be some of the last things I write with the phone :(

          Yeah, that is one annoying issue for sure.

          It happened to mine as well, what I did year (years?) ago, was to use a tiny piece of electric tape in the flex to make pressure and make it to recognize the charger as well…

          Still working fine after that.

          If your device stops recognizing data I think it is game over though.

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        There are adapters with charger throughput. Or else a car phone holder with wireless charging capability that’s connected to the cigarette lighter port will do the trick.

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      I just got a USB-C to 3.5" adapter and done. The phones listed here are either overpriced or shit.

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    I have a Samsung xcover 6 pro. It has the jack + 2 sims + 1 microsd + removable battery

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      Moto stylus 5g has both. The review said it had bloatware, but it had way less than my S9 or z fold 4. It’s running pretty lean out of the box, with just a few moto apps you don’t really need.

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    I’m still using a Samsung S10e and its starting to show signs of wear, but I honestly don’t like any of the replacements I’ve seen that are under $1000 and I don’t want to spend that much on a phone. And unfortunately it looks hard to find older versions too.

    I tried looking into old version of the Asus ROG or Red Magic phones that still performed better than my S10e but even those were still so pricy.

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      S10e is great. It’s what I’ve been using as well, but it doesn’t get security updates anymore. Been using a custom rom which does get Android security updates, but there was a pretty serious SoC level security vulnerability which won’t get fixed for the S10e.

      I’ll get a Pixel 8a instead. No headphone jack, slightly larger, only 1 physical sim. But can run GrapheneOS and have a long promised update period.

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        Yeah, that’s the part I’m worried about. I have the US snapdragon S10e, which cannot be modded to extend it’s lifespan. Which is a mistake I hope to fix with my next phone.

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    My phone doesn’t have a headphone jack but has an FM radio. It took me ages to 1) realise I needed a pass through cable without a DAC and 2) find a pass-through cable without a DAC.

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    So glad the phone model I have is not only on the list but also a 4 star. Budget phones for the win!

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    Yeah… a headphone jack is nice for charging and listening at the same time, but I’ll say it, the 10$ usb-c apple dongle does the job just fine and covers 99% of use cases. Plus it can also be used on devices with shitty DACs because the dongle is essentially one and it’s pretty good as well

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      I was disappointed Android Authority didn’t list the iPhone…

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    The Moto G Power 5g 2024 has been a great phone for me. Hard to find a phone with all the features but a headphone jack as well.

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    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: for phones a headphone jack has been fucking stupid for almost a decade now

    Blame the headphone manufacturers that refuse to release products with a connector that fits the vast majority of devices now, forcing adapter use, not the devices bailing on an outdated connector

    Every whiny person on this topic is fucking hilarious, you’re all fucking stupid as fuck

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      What are you talking about, the headphone jack is the superior connector. It works on all devices, it doesn’t need power, you can use it on a walkman from the 80s if you want. It can also rotate and is a lot more durable than USBC.

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          I believe they meant power seperate from that provided by the jack itself, like Bluetooth headphones need a battery.

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      I’m about to be installing my 3rd usb c on my fairphone because using my earphones all day phone in pocket kills the port. I’ve used devices like this mostly daily since mini discs came out, only ever broken one 3.5mm in that time.

      If I didn’t have a fairphone I’d have to go back to wireless iem over crappy Bluetooth that last about 12-18 months.