• hesusingthespiritbomb@lemmy.world
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    12 days ago

    So, this is a lot.

    I guess I’ll start with you calling Elon Musk “Muskrat”. This is like a middle school level insult. It makes your already immature argument seem even more immature. I’m straight up not sure if I’m arguing with a literal child at this point.

    Two, Twitter was better before Musk bought it, but it wasn’t in any way good. A million different toxic trends either started or blew up on Twitter. The 2010s was filled with a million different dumbass pearl clutching moments that started with a bunch of terminally online Twitter users making a mountain out of a molehill. It was basically just a constant stream of outrage and sanctimonious nonsense.

    That’s not to mention there was plenty of hate speech and attempts to undermine democracy, because the moderation team only really enforced the rules when it came to conservative talking points. You had NYTimes reporters tweeting out how white people should all kill themselves without consequences, while Twitter went around banning people for clowning on laid off journalists by telling them to “learn to code”. Donald Trump was banned, but the Supreme Leader of Iran was welcome with open arms.

    Even then, Twitter played a huge role in the formation of the alt right because they were always at least six months too late when it came to banning anyone. The culture war doesn’t get off the ground if Twitter just blacklists a bunch of straight up Russian propaganda websites and banhammers Milo. They also were extremely late to the party when it came to banning those ISIS recruitment videos, which is even more inexcusable.

    I reject the idea that reddit was ever really that good. It was better in some ways, but a lot of the most toxic reddit moments happened before it went corporate. Off the top of my head:

    • The softcore child porn
    • The stalker pictures of women
    • The time they had a huge thread where they all collectively gained sympathy to rapists
    • The “seduction” subreddits that basically attempted to convince naive young men that “seduction” meant putting women into a situation where they consented due to extreme social pressures.
    • The time they identified the wrong person as the Boston bomber

    The non toxic content was extremely hit or miss. You’d get more in depth discussion, but it would be between a ton of extremely myopic pseudo intellectual posts. Basically half of reddit was something like:

    • Religion bad, but only Christianity
    • I am euphoric because my atheism and intelligence enlightens me
    • Republicans bad
    • I have literal superpowers now that I stopped masturbating
    • Some half true historical fact that gets repeated a million different times because it fits everyone’s worldview
    • Keanu Reeves
    • Rage comics
    • DAE hate sportsball ???

    Finally, a huge portion of the reason reddit went downhill was the unpaid mods. They were often unwell individuals who used their position to push progressive politics. There was a good five years where basically every sub over a certain size was essentially a progressive politics sub, because they were all modded by the same people who saw the users as a captive audience.

    Social media just isn’t a good place for unique content or discourse. That’s not gonna change no matter who the owner is.

    • Doomsider@lemmy.world
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      12 days ago

      That was a lot. Just kidding, you basically confirmed everything I said, you just took your time doing it. I find it funny you think insulting poor Elon would somehow detract from what I said.

      Let me break it down for you. Elon is a Nepo baby manchild sexually assaulting conman. The real immaturity is people who are boot lickers buying into his propaganda that he knows more about manufacturing than anyone else.

      This is of course bullshit as the thing he knows the most about us fucking his own employees to produce twelve, that we know of, crotch goblins that he does not take care of. Not only is he a shit dad he has already disowned one of his children confirming the garbage human he is.

      He is not really CEO of two companies, this is a fantasy as it is not humanly possible. He does not really have involvement in five other businesses, he doesn’t even have the time to be two CEO at once. He does not care of his children. He does spend a lot of time voicing his shit opinions on Twatter, doing drugs, and playing video games. These are the things we can confirm he does

      So please tell me I am child because I recognize he is a charlatan.