But Geneva-based organization will retain ties with Joint Institute for Nuclear Research.

cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/25481991

“The decision to end the cooperation agreement was taken in December 2023 when CERN’s Council passed a resolution “to terminate the International Cooperation Agreement between CERN and the Russian Federation, together with all related protocols and addenda, with effect from 30 November 2024; To terminate … all other agreements and experiment memoranda of understanding allowing the participation of the Russian Federation and its national institutes in the CERN scientific programme, with effect from 30 November 2024; AFFIRMS That these measures concern the relationship between CERN and Russian and Belarusian institutes and do not affect the relationship with scientists of Russian nationality affiliated with other institutes.” The cooperation agreement with Belarus will come to an end on 27 June, before the Russian one ends.”

  • Buffalox@lemmy.world
    634·
    2 months ago

    So Russian scientists now get excluded from EU work, but Tennis players are still OK.
    It’s insane that Russians can come here to earn money, while waging war against Europe at the same time.
    That goes for any branch, be it entrepreneurs, scientists or art, it doesn’t matter, they should not be able to make money here. That should be a very obvious part of our embargo against Russia.

    • SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee
      232·
      2 months ago

      It seems like tennis players aren’t really the priority when protecting scientific data, or potential breakthroughs.

      • Buffalox@lemmy.world
        121·
        2 months ago

        You are completely ignoring the essence of my argument., they make money, it creates prestige and it normalizes working with Russia.
        All these Russians need to be thrown out 2 years ago.

    • Contravariant@lemmy.world
      12·
      2 months ago

      Depriving Russia of nuclear scientists, or capable people in general, might well be worth whatever wages they brought home.

      If you want to bring the inter-european war into it I’m not sure if we can afford to be unpragmatic about this. By all accounts letting Russia bleed manpower in exchange for some small wages is well worth it. If you want to deprive them of money you really need to strike at their ability to export gas and oil at inflated prices. Advancing knowledge about fusion aids that goal, though the effects are likely (hopefully?) too late to matter.

    • BrowseMan@sh.itjust.works
      9·
      2 months ago

      “these measures concern the relationship between CERN and Russian and Belarusian institutes and do not affect the relationship with scientists of Russian nationality affiliated with other institutes.”

      So that would be similar to the tennis players, no?

      • Madison420@lemmy.world
        51·
        2 months ago

        It’s really not, a typical aspect of a country at war is removal from public participation.

        • monk@lemmy.unboiled.info
          25·
          2 months ago

          Oh yeah, expelling those who will then be drafted into the army back at their home country is a brilliant move.

          • Madison420@lemmy.world
            51·
            2 months ago

            Look, I don’t make the rules man you can be mad and maybe should be just not at me and not really at Ukraine or cern.

            • monk@lemmy.unboiled.info
              22·
              2 months ago

              True, but having one idiot do massively stupid things doesn’t mean the other side doing less stupid things somehow stopped being stupid.

              • Madison420@lemmy.world
                31·
                2 months ago

                Cern is uninvolved, they just don’t want the conflict to be an issue on property. Ukraine was invaded, Russia invaded so they booted Russia and not Ukraine.

                It makes total sense.

  • ThePyroPython@lemmy.world
    59·
    2 months ago

    It’s a real shame that Putin’s stupid and failed road trip is impeding a country with a long and decorated history in partical particle physics from contributing to the scientific community.

    Russians please don’t lie down and accept this, get that twat thrown out of the top floor of the Kremlin.

  • TheTechnician27@lemmy.worldEnglish
    301·
    2 months ago

    As well they should. Russia and Belarus should never be allowed to normalize this, and that should include ostracization in literally every aspect of their existence. You want to launch genocidal, imperialist invasions, run sham elections for a fascist oligarch, repress your citizens, blatantly kill political rivals day in and day out including outside of your own territory, sell arms to Myanmar’s military, buddy up with North Korea and the Syrian government, send mercenaries to Africa to make things even worse there, cause ecological disasters in service of your illegal invasions, outlaw the expression of sexual and gender minorities, threaten war so flippantly that all of your western neighbors feel the need to join a defensive pact, interfere heavily in foreign elections to put fascists into power, and otherwise be one of the biggest, most backward shitholes on the planet? Then we’ll treat you as such.

    • monk@lemmy.unboiled.info
      21·
      2 months ago

      Ostracize countries, welcome geople who flee them. Instead, you only piss off people who flee them and trade with countries.