What do you guys think about this glasses to use daily to escape Facial Recognition? Worth the price? Does it really work?
Relevant xkcd: https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/license_plate_2x.png
This is also how we stop our biggest abusers of our service. They leave such a unique fingerprint from all our other customers, we just quietly shadowban them.
What service, if I may ask, is it that you run?
I prefer dazzle paint. It looks way more badass.
It doesn’t need to be as dramatic as this. The goal is simply to obscure key parts of the face that are commonly used for individualization. Between the eyebrows, the bridge of the nose, jawline, eye tilt, etc are all common key data points that facial recognition systems use to differentiate between similar faces. You can also try to avoid facial detection from pinging you in the first place, by obscuring the expected oval head shape. Style your hair asymmetrically, have bangs that droop over one eye, break up the expected round shape, use a color that mismatches your skintone, etc…
Your face paint is definitely an extreme example of the latter. But the important part is that some may actually still be able to detect a face (even if it can’t positively identify them) because they didn’t do anything to obscure the head shape or obscure at least one of their eyes.
But I want it to be as dramatic as this.
What’s my ex doing here?
Oh god, it’s my ex too.
So to defeat facial recognition all I need is a Flock of Seagulls haircut?
And that’s how I got kicked out of the local trader joes…
In what direction are you moving in? I can’t tell!
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China government created a software that circumvent masks and they can profile your face even if you’re using them.
How is that even possible?
I wonder if they somehow have that technology, or just say they do in order to intimidate people.
u can unlock ur iPhone with a mask on. if apple can do it, I think the Chinese government can too
Creepy. Thanks!
It does not “circumvent” masks. That is impossible. It just uses other facial data. But you’re limiting it’s efficacy.
Humans are extremely good at facial detection but if my mother walks by me wearing a mask, sunglasses and a baseball cap, I would not recognize her.
Please don’t spread false information… China has been able to successfully identify citizens wearing masks for years…
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My understanding is that typical N95 masks may not prevent facial recognition. Different systems have different performance but many will work successfully with a masked subject. The position of the eyes are one of the key inputs to many facial recognition systems.
Exactly! This is my point , this is the biggest reason that I want this glasses. But I didn’t found more information if they really work besides their own site.
Google photos can recognize my butt somehow. So I don’t doubt facial recognition systems can work around masks when given a clear photo to work with
Yeah but then you look like a idiot. Not like these cool DOUCHE GLASSES.
I doubt they work, and they’re definitely not worth the price imo
I can get a pair of prescription sunglasses for less than that
Idk if regular sunglasses will prevent your face from being captured by facial recognition systems.
I don’t believe the glasses you linked will do so either lol
And how exactly are these glasses preventing that ? Simple ray optics would suggest otherwise !
They are made from a material that reflects visible and/or infrared light and its lenses block the system that is used to measure the distance between your eyeballs avoiding to create a unique profile from your face. Many facial recognition cameras (not all) relies on infrared to search for patterns in human face and this glasses reflects IR. These glasses are one of the few tools that we can at least use to try protect our privacy against facial recognition.
They’re IR reflectors. Presumably only work on cameras with built in IR lighting, and only at night.
A more effective thing to do will be to add IR LEDs to a hat or something over/around your face.
Buy a pair , test them with the tech they claim it blocks and tell us how it goes.
Facial recognition does not need to use infrared in any way to work. Source: have trained many models
They most certainly do not, my FaceID worked flawlessly with all of my glasses, invluding sunglasses even when I did not set it up with glasses
This seems more like an art project than a functional product. Highly doubt it’ll work
Oh yeah, We’re looking for that idiot in the stupid sunglasses, a tinfoil hat, and a fedora.
That’s a sick Raving outfit
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I suppose putting on a very unique pair of glasses would for sure avoid facial recognition. Why would there be a need to recognize your face if u make yourself so obviously different vs others. Haha.
A dumbass camera would be sufficient. No need for complicated facial recognition camera.
That’s not how they work. They’re highly reflective, so they block analog cameras, and they’re infrared blocking, so they stop auto focus.
Most cctv are small sensor fixed focus so everything is crisp without any assist though
I guess the infrared blocking is probably also to mess up the facial recognition systems.
But if majority wear this to prevent facial recognition, they won’t be standing out anymore.
@learningduck @chairman Great!.. so just wait for everyone else to buy these first
Haha. I am also waiting for everyone else to buy one of these.
Grab this https://hackaday.com/2022/10/20/render-yourself-invisible-to-ai-with-this-adversarial-sweater-of-doom/ and you will become the invisible man
Okay. Who’s doing the PDF deep dive and letting us know how this works in TL;DR format?
You take the image recognization machine, and you run the output of your own algorithm through it, training your algorithm to value patterns that confuse the first machine.
I wouldn’t trust this to work against updated machine learning algorithms.
Tl;dr It stops the ai from being able to recognize you as a person so it can’t tell that your face is a face.
Yeah, got that. But how does it work? How does it stop ai from working, it’s what I’m asking
Apparently it mix up human patterns
I read somewhere that during covid there was a big shift in recognition techniques to overall facial morphology & gait recognition.
I’ll try & find an article. Mask up & keep a coin in your shoe.
If you keep a coin in your shoe everywhere you go then you will have the same gait regardless, everywhere you go.
Take the coin out when you’re doing sneaky shit.
The purpose is not to avoid profiling while doing “sneaky shit”. I don’t do “sneaky shit”. The point is to avoid being profiled.
Then learn to walk without rhythm
But what if I still want to attract the worm, while still foiling gait recognition technology?
Probably stock up on shoes with different sole & treadhight. Flipflops one day, combat boots the next. Or identical shoes with different amounts of wear on the bottom, vary your leg height & you’ll adjust your posture to compensate. Might be able to get away with just carrying really heavy shit in only one of your pockets. Anything sensitive enough to track small signifiers in stride length & foot pronation would hopefully be easy to juke by that same sensitivity.
Put your grasses on, nothing will be wrong…
So this is what my homies mean when they say “bro this is too far, you need to touch grass”
If you live in a authoritarian country this will just put a target on your back. They will still stop and search you: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/facial-recognition-cameras-technology-london-trial-met-police-face-cover-man-fined-a8756936.html
Typical Europe
Lol what? The met aren’t even representative of policing in the UK, let alone the rest of Europe!
Worth the price is subjective. Are you a wanted criminal, or planning a heist? Then probably yes. Otherwise, probably no.
Or maybe attending a protest in China?
I would definitely want something more than these glasses in that case, but that’s another possible use for them for sure.
Maybe you just want to look sick at the next rave.
Not their intended purpose, but that’s the only one that doesn’t sound stupid
Edit: looking at their website, that might be their intended target audience.
These days people can be identified by just their gait.
Goes to supermarket in gimp suit.
Proceeds to pay with credit card
Ministry for Silly Walks, wouldn’t have thought that would be useful one day…
The only thing they block is the eyes, nothing is obscured otherwise, their own demos on their website show that.
I personally won’t be wasting my money, if I want to obscure my face I’ll wear a face mask and color contacts like I already do.
but if we combine the glasses with a mask maybe we have a good approach, right?
I suggest balaclava with ski mask. Or this. https://medieval-armour.com/images/stories/virtuemart/product/002_2-03_lrg_so.jpg
As far as I can tell, these supposedly protect you from facial recognition because they reflect IR. I’m not an expert in security cameras, but don’t they only use IR at night? While they could technically run 24/7, that would burn out the LEDs in half the time.
These are also quite similar to the “anti-paparazi” reflective clothing. If you are interested in these as a statement piece, those might be of interest to you as well.
These seem like the developer came up with the function of the sunglasses after coming up with the sunglasses (after being inspired by the anti-paparazi clothes).
All in all, I don’t really see much value in these sunglasses; and I suppose I wouldn’t really be that concerned about facial recognition with proper masking safety, anyways.
I’m not an expert in security cameras, but don’t they only use IR at night?
Precisely. And good security cameras with Sony sensors only need IR when it’s pitch black. During dawn, dusk and summer nights at Nordic latitudes they don’t even switch to night mode, showing sharp full-color image almost 24/7—watching that footage you wouldn’t even realize that it’s taken in natural light with sun below the horizon.
And facial recognition is a standard feature these days. It’s become so good that you can have two pictures of the same person, one taken at age 15 and the other at age 95, and it can still say with >95% confidence that it’s the same person. And that’s the prosumer-level stuff available to every Jack and Joe to install to their small business or suburban house. I don’t even want to think about what the alphabet soup orgs could have access to.
I have some experience with Dahua cameras and NVR-s. Their technical capabilities are both amazing and scary at the same time.
Any sources to back up that a vague amount of infrared of the eye region is so meaningfully essential to face recognition systems? My sunglasses reflect most visible light, and they reflect some infrared light, and they cost $5. Even granting that very shaky claim, infrared blocking materials aren’t that expensive, this seems like a gimmick to make up for big prices.
A mask and any sunglasses or hat will prevent facial recognition 1000x better I suspect.
Dunno what those cost, but a pair of IR blocking safety glasses are like 15 bucks or less, blend in a whole lot better, and won’t make you stand out like a shining beacon in video.
Someone said it was to disrupt autofocus
