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I think Hades is not the same as Hell. Hades is where all the dead go in Greek Mythology. Hell is where only sinners go to be tortured for eternity in modern Christianity.
Yup. In Greek mythology the underworld is split into different parts. There’s a part where heroes go, a part where average people wander around for eternity, Tartarus where the titans are held and then there’s a part where people are published. I think Sisyphus is punished in the underworld but I could be misremembering.
Edit: punished not published.
and then there’s a part where people are published
So like…if you’re an amateur writer in life, after death there’s still hope to go pro?
Hadn’t even noticed the autocorrect fuck up. Thanks, going to leave it for your joke to work.
If anyone would like a proper education on the levels of Hades, play Hades!
It was actually the Rick Riordan books that I learnt that from.
Is Christianity the only religion where The dead are tortured and punished forever? Most religions it’s more like a purgatory or some whole other realm
Hades - as per Odyssey - is a cold and barren place, no place for anyone to want to go to. So, while, tortured, no, it’s no fun.
But EVERY religion, devised as system of ethics where morals don’t work, needs to threaten a punishment for people who break the rules in life. Otherwise it doesn’t really work as a deterrent.
I mean, she got kidnapped and was forced into the role soooo
Yup. Plus when she was kidnapped by her uncle, her mother Demeter caused a famine killing thousands of people. The marriage of Hades and Persephone is not romantic or positive at all.
If it makes any difference Persephone as queen of the underworld predates the existence of Hades so her getting forced into the role is a retcon.
If I squint just the right way I think I can see in Greek mythology the process of how the indo-europeans with their sky-daddy inched out the older mythology. Unfortunately we know (comparatively) little about these cultures. And I think we have no written records…
The Mycaeans were an Indo-European culture, the ahrift from Mycaeanean culture to Hellenic also saw a shift from focus on Cthonic gods to Aetheric gods. I suspect this is less a matter of a matter of inching out of older gods and moreso the effects of losing ones civilization. Another connected thing that happened during this period was most likely the splitting of Pan and Hermes.
Not saying the Sky father hypothesis doesnt some hold water, but IMO there is a good reason sky gods tended to take center stage. Rain is kinda important and agricultural society will inevitably put a good bit of emphasis on such matters which will reflect in a cultures gods.
Demeter didn’t just cause a famine. She threw the fit of the ages, a wrath only a mother could bring forth. Her anger and indignation was so great she brought Zeus to the bargaining table. Demeter stopped everything growing, throwing the world into winter. Or the season of non-growth. Only when it was agreed that Persephone could spend half the year with her mother on the surface did her mother’s wrath subside and spring returned. But every year, when Persephone has to return to the underworld, plants wither yet again. ’
Demeter is cool y’all.
Thanks for the further info. I had a feeling there were parts I’d forgotten.
Hades was such a looser and couldn’t get a wife of his own so he went to Zeus (his brother and Persephone’s father) and asked for Persephone’s hand. He granted it knowing that neither Persephone nor Demeter would approve of it. Patriarchs be patriarchin’. So Hades lured upon Persephone and snatched her when he found her alone. Not cool.
Lets consider the fact that is just one version of the myth admittedly the most common. Also this is like the one time Hades actions can be construed as assholeish, most of the times Hades is either dealing with stupid people or people not fucking listening to him. Why do people not listen to the underworld god? He isnt fucking Loki or Odin he aint gonna trick you, your ass belongs to him sooner or later regardless.
Didn’t she end up becoming fond of him or is that a modern fiction thing?
Welcome to Perse-phone! To order flowers, press ONE! To rain fire and brimstone down on your enemies, press TWO!
No, that’s Magda.
Bitched ain’t shit…
