the slides will be in our corporate colors: yellow text on a pink background …
And the presenter will regularly quiz attendees on the content
Not quiz as such. More like “any questions so far?” at the end of each slide, but will not give you time to ask anything “no? Ok, moving on”
Or the awkward 5 minutes of silence when no one has a question at all.
Add to that going back 2-3 slides every 5mins and you get my professor at uni. Watching his classes was actual torture
One of my teachers at uni used a Word document instead of a presentation. And yes, he still read it word for word. It was like a very shitty audiobook
Alternatively, the best live audio textbook performance ever
Or Bob the boomer goes can you go back 3 slides?
There was a guy, I shit you not, that would ask him to go back to the previous slide cause he wasn’t done writing it down
Like bro, i’m almost sure the professor will post the pp online. You dont have to copy the presentation… take shorthand notes…
Nah, he didnt post the presentation online. Still, the slides were worthless and had nothing of value on them, the entire class was really a waste of time, no reason to copy anything
Bob The Boomer may have been passive-aggressively trolling the presenter. “I’m not in here with you, you’re in here with me” kind of thing.
At university, I had a lecturer who took this one step further. Instead of a power point, he used a word document that he read word by word.
legere (lat) to read => lectura (lat) the reading event => lecture (en) => lecturer (en) a person giving/hosting a reading event.
A lecturer is supposed to read the text of a book to students so that they are able to write it down and obtain a copy of it for themselves.
Books written by professional scribes are incredible expensive, and this new thing they established in Bologna in 1088 – the so called “universities” offering lectures will be a major breakthrough in the history of mankind to distribute knowledge!
Good to know some professors still honour the only true way of teaching.
Pfff this generation is wasting good expensive sheets of paper when good old oral tradition has worked for thousands of years. Writing was invented only 4000 years ago and still haven’t caught on.
it’s a fad, like medicine
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A lecturer is supposed to read the text of a book to students so that they are able to write it down and obtain a copy of it for themselves.
Does this still happen, with digital and all?
Bruder …
If the lecturer hasn’t got the notice books can be cheaply printed and purchased nowadays, probably yes. What is this digital your speeking of?
books written by professional scribes are incredible expensive
some things haven’t changed …
We had one who pulled up the pdf of the textbook to read it word by word
You sure they weren’t just sharing the wrong screen?
Oh no my kid’s school just texted me he got a fever I have to go. Hate to miss the presentation, can you post the slides in chat after? Thx!
can you post the slides in chat after?
Can you post the highlights in chat after?
Someone who gives a presentation like this is incapable of summarizing - you will be getting the full presentation.
Fuck you. Nothing to do with your comment. just because of good etiquette
Select all.
Copy.
Open ChatGPT.
"Please sum up the following in a tweet: "
Paste.
Submit.
Sure! Here’s what I got: Innovation and synergy are good. We should do them.
Oh thats fine. We’ll have a make up presentation on thursday, i’ll schedule you for that one.
It’s even more fun when your manager makes you do a presentation. And he schedules it at 10pm, so that all the people 12 timezones away can attend at their “morning time.”
But they don’t even bother to join the zoom. The only people attending are also in your timezone up way later than they want to be. And he’s like “it’s ok, we’ll record it for them.” Like wtf.
And then they go and do stupidass incorrect shit anyway, whether they watched the recording or not.
stupidass incorrect shit
like scheduling a meeting at 10pm
If you seriously wanted to communicate something, you wouldn’t do a presentation.
I’ll never forget the one professor who put up a side of code… And had no idea what the class was about. We spent most of the class reading together with him to try to figure out what the lesson was supposed to be about
Apparently the guy was one of those crazy low-level guys who can do things I don’t understand but build on top of. Guy just constantly looked bewildered by reality, he belonged in the code world
So what was the lesson supposed to be about?
“sometimes it’s okay to skip class”
Semaphores. It was obviously C++ code with a bunch of threads, but as it was a standalone C++ program it wasn’t really clear why it was lol
By low level guys, you mean he knew about circuits and EE? But he got stuck teaching a C++ class but he couldn’t code?
By low level, I mean like kernel work. I’m told he worked on one of the 'nixes way back when.
It was a data structures class, we did Java or Python in the into classes, php & js for Web + db basics and C++ for theory classes. Then you pick your path
Anyways, the guy taught OS, language design, and data structures. He could code fine, he was just a terrible lecturer - extremely disorganized, no lesson plans. He only wasted the one full class forgetting why we were there, but reading his code (labeled by week) then scribbling on the whiteboard was his lecture
I guess I ended up understanding data structures and I never fell asleep, so maybe he wasn’t a bad teacher. It was just mostly just assignments, he didn’t really do quizzes and the final wasn’t much of the grade
Why data structures weren’t in C/C++? It would make sense to care about structures, cache locality, SoA/AoS, indirections and stuff in some language that compiles in native code.
Ah, I phrased that ambiguously - it was in C++, all of our computing theory type classes were.
I just got distracted realizing I graduated proficient in 9 languages and reasonably comfortable in another 3. 2 were from internships, but the rest were all from coursework. The last couple years, I was juggling 2-4 at all times, plus the odd scripts
I always thought I was really good at picking up and switching languages, but I just realized my program was designed that way.
That feels like a lot, do other colleges do something similar?
(I guess you could knock off 3 because we ended up switching every semester in software engineering because cross platform apps were pretty bad at the time)
Once you are in the industry long enough, you won’t even remember how many different languages you have worked with.
A good education and experience should get you to the point where you are comfortable picking up and using any language, even if it is new to you.
My undergrad officially required Pascal, C, C++, Java, PHP, Prolog, Lisp, x86 and MIPS assembly. You couldn’t work around those. There was also Tiger, VHDL, and Bash that were required, but you would probably not count as languages. (I’m certainly forgetting some stuff too.)
There was a virtual certainty you’d need some more languages, but not everybody would need the same ones.
I was thinking that you meant like, machine code, by “low level” and yeah. C wouldn’t make a lot of sense to someone who handles machine code.
I’d call that hardware - if you’re code enough to the metal to be writing machine code (or even assembly), the physical architecture of the hardware is part of your code
Low level generally is one step up - manual access to memory, compiling to an architecture rather than a virtualization layer, etc
Strangely, the guy that taught OO theory did our hardware class, we built bit shifters and wrote programs in risc assembly… And ONE program in machine code with the promise we’d never have to do it again
I could understand someone who writes in assembly, but machine code is a nightmare…I think I got it without any mistakes, but my butthole was clenched for 4 hours, terrified I’d have to debug it
Right. That’s my bad. I’m not a programmer or developer, so I conflate machine code and assembly far too frequently.
Oh no, synchronization primitives!
Well, you can end up implementing synchronization primitive if you are writing game. Sometimes game engine is kernel in userspace.
I’ve done it in a Python system at work before. We used a mutex?(The int, not the lockout) to track worker threads
It’s a hell of a lot easier these days… It’s amazing how quickly programming advances when you look back
I’m interested in how this came up in a game engine though, and how recent it was
Here is my opinion: Slide should have images, diagrams or charts to illustrate what I say, almost never any text. What I say is written in advance in the notes of the presentation that is only visible to me while presenting, but will be readable by anyone who look at the file afterwards. I prepare the duration and delivery of the speech at least three times in full before presenting.
This person points that power
Death by a hundred slides.
This is the waterpark I want to go to this summer.
death by a hundred slides water park you say?
Have you ever been to an office meeting that turned out to be a CEO circlejerk that dragged on for hours?
But a friend of mine went to the grandaddy of them all, something about state politics, some ambitious asshole making a power play and filibustering for an entire day, he had come prepared specifically to wear everyone down, I think he was trying to approve a new set of rules and conditions that benefitted his position, something along those lines.
CEO of our company does one every single Friday at lunch over zoom. Luckily I have never attended. But my boss does has to eat his lunch while listening to CEO talk about all the ways they doing great when we aren’t.
I’ve had a CEO like that. I call it the sunshine and smoke up your ass meeting.
Friday lunch meeting over zoom 💀
“Oh, looks like nobody’s doing anything during their lunch break, so I’m sure it’ll be fine to schedule a meeting during it.”
If they’re paying for lunch, I’m fine with it. If not, I’m not fine. My lunch is my time to recharge for the rest of the workday.
My manager is salary so they work them like slaves. He works 6.30am to 4.30p every day and even answers emails while vacation.
If somebody did that, I’d disapprove of those rules out of pure spite.
Even if I’m only presenting a handful of slides I’ll slap some blank ones on the end just to make everyone sweat over “Slide 1 of 83”. Everyone is pretty darn quiet and glad to help speed things along most of the time.
Do you give presentations to people on whom this works more than once?
Ya got to mix it up, sometimes you really do have an 83 page slide deck.
Don’t forget the random slides of pet photos.
“now how did THAT get in there?”
That’s genius!
No, I think it is cruel and unusual punishment.
People who aren’t good at presentation making think that they are supposed to convey absolutely everything they are saying and be crammed full of information. I was doing a group presentation sometime ago where my group members insisted I put paragraphs of info in my slides and were worried we would fail for not enough information. Even after explaining that they were meant to guide the audience in what I was going to say, they insisted that it was wrong
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Also: Presenter: Can we hold all questions to the end, please? Thank you!
The end obviously never arrives.
It arrives, but by then there’s no time for questions.
Usually there aren´t any at the end. Perhaps only one or two people actually paid attention and they don´t want to put themselves in the spotlight.
My best presentation at university was during a small seminar. It was a 45min talk about 3 papers and how they relate to each other. I procrastinate a lot, so I didn’t really do anything besides reading those papers until the day before my presentation. That day, a friend called for a spontaneous barbecue, so I had just an odd hour to actually prepare slides. I managed 8 slides in total, the rest I just impromptu recalled from memory. People liked it and it was the least effort I put in any talk I held at university.
reading those papers
Woah there Mr. Overachiever, you’re making the rest of us look lazy…
Honestly, that’s the right way to do it if you really know your stuff.
The slides are there as a visual aid or backdrop. The “presenter notes” is where all your bulleted items and prompts for recollection go.
Also, and this is where a lot of people get it wrong, the slide deck is NOT a useful document for distribution. It is specific to both the subject matter and speaker; it’s analogous to sheet music. A video of the presentation (e.g. TED) is far more useful as we’re really talking about a performance. At worst, there should be “references” page in some appendix, with hyperlinks to actual media that folks can digest on their own time.
what’s a slide deck?
The slides in the presentation. Old people term
i see, thank you
More like an industry colloquialism.
The best presentations are about topics you know well enough to discuss at length, and aren’t constrained by paragraphs of points you need to get through. And a presentation is the best way to explain a graph or diagram.
It really baffles me when people make presentations like this. It’s such an easy thing to correct as well but it just keeps happening.
I assume it’s passive aggressive when they’re forced to present instead of email.
The comic strip sounds like someone made a plugin to export obsidian vaults to .pptx
This comic strip sounds like a 20 year-old Dilbert comic with all the wit removed.
Dilbert comics have wit?
- part one, How the Dilbert Guy Lost His Mind
- part two, How the Dilbert Guy Lost His Mind
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