Oprah has been getting away with some fucked up shit for a while
It’s her fault we have Dr.Oz and Dr.Phil
Platforming John of God was pretty awful as well.
I have said for years I do not trust that woman. She is too powerful and, honestly, I bet she has nukes.
Well that was a twist I wasn’t expecting
Gary, they’re onto us mate!
Yeah, well my mate Paul met this Italian couple whilst he was backpacking and they invited him back to their room for a threesome and they gave him some LSD. When they got there the bloke one pulled a screwdriver on him and made him shit in his own shoe and eat it.
We’ve all been there.
“We’ve got a big surprise for you all today! Everyone look under your seats”
Audience members find a leaflet and begin reading
“We are in possession of the most destructive explosive ever devised by man. A single one of our newly developed atomic bombs is actually the equivalent in explosive power to what 2000 of our giant B-29s can carry on a single mission. This awful fact is one for you to ponder and we solemnly assure you it is grimly accurate…”
Literally her entire career, maybe life.
Oprah has been getting away with some fucked up shit
Such as?
Remember when her and Ellen joked about going into a bank just to make a deposit to see how the common people live?
She’s endorsed multiple on her show selling junk science and grifts. She perpetuates myths about losing weight and health to promote her products. She basically did the same thing on Maui that everyone gets angry at Zuckerberg for doing Kauai, which was buy a fuck ton of land and then kick everyone off of it. She presents like a black girl that made it, but is infact just another billionaire member of the American aristocracy. Is she better than most? Sure, but it’s not hard to be better than people like Trump and Koch.
I wouldn’t exactly call this “fucked up shit”
Not in comparison to her other shit, but I stand by my statement
Fuck Oprah.
Her sanctimonious bullshit brought us Dr. Oz, Dr. Phil, and Jenny McCarthy.
Her ‘listening platform’ has probably lead directly to the deaths of tens of thousands of people.
I believe she’s also the largest land owner in Maui where many locals are facing homelessness due to the fires.
Would you rather, receive open heart surgery performed by Oz, Phil with Nurse McCarthy, or receive lethal injection administered by Dr Phil?
This shouldnt be a hard question, but…
Nah, nah, nah. Easy choice. I’d go with the lethal injection because I think that there’s a much greater chance Phil would fuck up killing someone (easy, all things considered), rather than the three of them succeeding in something difficult. Simply because none of them are qualified to do anything but blather idiocy into a camera
Iirc Dr. Oz used to be quite the renowned heart surgeon. Makes it even more tragic that he chose this life as a charlatan giving harmful advice, instead of using his talent for good.
I’d rather go play on the expressway
“But she’s so empowering!” the fans will say, nevermind the fact that she only seems to “empower” fraudsters.
“Empowerment” is the free square on the Buzzword Bingo card.
Oprah is a bullshit artist. She has always been a bullshit artist and she got rich peddling bullshit. Her efficiency promoting pseudoscience throughout her career makes her a blight on society, forever deserving scorn for the people she helped to hurt. We are collectively dumber because of her efforts, and she gets to live her life lavished by luxury and adulation as a result.
What was that Oprah said about these younger generations not wanting to work for something ?
“My frustration with young women + young men is that they think success is supposed to happen like - That!”
that’s her.
what a fraud.i take that back. she left the board. i hope that she finds some peace with her body.Uh, she definitely worked hard. She’s an actual “self made” billionaire. She did it through constantly working in media over decades. Do you think anyone said “let’s just give this young black woman a billion dollars?” She was literally the first black woman to have a billion dollars, so no.
Her weight has always been an issue, so this is only news to her most rabid fans.
There are no self made billionaires lol.
I don’t know why you got downvoted. It’s literally impossible to become a billionaire without exploiting others.
And it’s impossible to steal from them as well. You’re just talking back a fraction of what they stole first
She’s worked hard. Cool.
She’s given platform to charlatans. Not cool.
She’s living in her bubble after getting rich and is unaware of ground realities. Cool.
She’s criticising average people while living in that bubble. Not cool.
The first black woman billionaire was Sheila Johnson.
She’s an actual “self made” billionaire.
🤦♂️
Everybody works hard. If hard work is all it takes to deserve billions, why aren’t all the rest of us billionaires?
Because she got help, that’s why.
As someone who is loosing weight it’s basically calories in and calories out without eating over your daily calory budget
loseit is a good app and will calculate your calory budget for you and can track the foods you eat and add them up
I feel sorry for you americans though that don’t have the per 100g on your nutritional labels though because serving sizes can be deceptive
Wait… They don’t have that level of detail on the labels?? That’s ridiculous? Serving size is arbitrary nonsense.
It’s just not that easy for some folks. Especially people who have developed eating disorders.
I know this might not sound positive but people with eating disorders should try to speak to a therapist about it because eating disorders can end up being horrible for your health
Although it is true what you say and I do agree, I also read between your lines that maybe you don’t know how difficult and (life)long that process is.
An eating disorder is a disease/issue that honestly isn’t solvable, you carry that weak point for the rest of your life and will have to battle it. Which with eating is extra difficult, since you have to eat. You can’t stay sober from food.
(But maybe I misunderstood your words (being written text without further context). )
This is why I’m not against drugs like Ozempic for those who need it.
I used a new medication to make me not want opiates. Used it for about two years until I had enough healthy habits in place to actually not want opiates. Been clean for 6 years and off the medication for over a year without issue.
Never would have gotten clean without it so it makes sense to me how people end up obese.
It’s not about being easy, it’s about being able to measure. I’ve been completely unable to regulate my food intake for a long time until I took it real seriously (therapeutic fasting. It’s a thing, it’s very extreme, if you can avoid it do it) and kind of reset my eating habits. Now that I’m slowly increasing my caloric intake to what someone on the weight I aim to be should consume (2m calories a day, healthy for someone with 90kg), having the pero 100g indication is extremely helpful for me since I can estimate how much stuff is taxing my daily budget, and I’m discovering some incredible cheat foods (stuff I really enjoy eating that fills me and has low calories).
What I mean to say is that having the per 100g information is very valuable for anyone that cares to control their caloric intake. Sure, you don’t have it in restaurants and stuff but with enough experience you tend to learn to estimate dishes so you can compensate beforehand or afterwards to not exceed your budget.
Its all about caloric intake, some people have it real hard to keep it under control due to eating disorders or family customs, but it really is just that.
Please tell me about your cheat foods
Sure! As always, food being filling depends a lot on the person same with tastyness. Anyway, one dish I really like is guacamole, it’s usually eaten with bread, and that bad. Recently I’ve taken a liking to eatich raw spinach with some oil (a cheap refillable spray will let you throw just what you need, usually 60kcal are enough to dress it well) and about 125g guacamole which is somewhat around 250kcal from the brand I buy. The guacamole and oil give a lot of flavour to the spinach, which has a strong texture and takes awhile to eat everything. It’s less than 400kcal in total, and quite healthy.
Instead of buying fruit juices, which even natural ones have quite a lot of sugar and thus calories, I’ve taken a liking to drinking vegetable soups, which basically cost the same in the store and have a fraction of the caloric cost while having quite a lot of vatamins. Again, I personally enjoy it a lot.
Besides that it’s all about eating stuff I would not usually eat. Lentils, chickpeas and other legumes are pretty good in nutrients and fill you a lot.
Everything considered, it’s more about not eating an exaggerated amount of food, and the fasting really helped me reset my habits. Before I wouldn’t have considered eating fruit instead some bag fries, but now that it’s been a while that I haven’t eaten fries, I’m slowly getting used to eating healthy stuff since going from zero to vegetables+fruits is incredible.
To summarize, lightly dressed spinach & guacamole salad and vegetable soups are my “cheat foods”. Food I really enjoy that fills me up with a low caloric intake.
Edit: forgot about the pear cherry tomatoes, it’s a variety of cherry tomatoes that has more “meat” and is sweeter, but still has fuckall calories so buying a bunch instead of potatoes and eating them all is totally fine.
Agreed. But we should still acknowledge that losing fat is difficult for multiple reasons. Sure, ultimately it’s basic physics. If you operate on a caloric deficit over a longer period of time you will lose weight. That is true for everybody. But on a personal level it can be quite a challenge to lose fat and not gain it again. There are often life-long habits to overcome, sometimes (mental) health issues to deal with. You must find the time and energy and money to change your eating habits to something healthy. A simple drastic reduction of your caloric intake is unsustainable and unhealthy, you need to come up with a good plan. You need to find time to work out, because that’s also healthy and muscle mass is vital to losing fat. And I sad fat, not weight, because if you gain muscles you will also gain weight, as muscles are heavier than fat. But that’s healthy weight. Anyway, I’m rambling.
I’m not saying this to discourage anyone, living healthier will benefit you in so many ways. But I feel it’s worth acknowledging that there’s usually more to it than just counting calories.
I’m just pleasantly shocked you used the word ‘lose’ so many times without spelling it ‘loose’
Weight loss is letting the fat loose.
serving sizes can be deceptive
The funniest example I’ve seen of this recently is the whipped butter that my parents buy. It has a blurb on the front that says “50% less fat than regular butter per serving”, which is true - because even though the serving sizes are the same (1 tablespoon) the whipped butter is fucking half air.
You now gave me the idea to maybe give these calorie counters a shot. In my appstore it shows up as “Lose It!”, I asume thats the one? Also question, how privacy safe are these?
Am I missing something? When WW itself has added medications to its offerings, why would this result in Oprah leaving the board? Or are those two things unrelated?
For a long time, Weight Watchers has said that if you just follow their points system, the weight will melt off and you won’t need supplements or anything else. When most people think of Weight Watchers, they’re probably not thinking about the weight loss drugs they now support; they’re thinking of the years of points gimmick that make you feel like you can’t lose weight unless you pay $10+/month to see if you can eat that food or not (rather than teaching anyone about calorie intake vs. output).
Weight Watchers relies on a subscription based model to “save” people from their fatness, and Oprah was the biggest WW pusher. She had tons of money and resources, was even on the board of WW, and still needed medications to manage her weight. I don’t give a fuck, but people who bought into her ads and promos probably feel a little pissed off.
I didn’t even know they sold drugs until coming into this thread.
1954: Oprah Winfrey is born in Kosciusko, MS, weighing 6 pounds, 11 ounces. Throughout her infancy, she steadily gains weight, a habit that persists throughout her life.
How brave 😔
I’m betting those weight loss meds are laxatives, because Oprah is full of shit.
I don’t think they worked
Very good article by the wonderful Cathy O’Neil (mathbabe) about Wegovy (she has lost 60 lb by using it): https://mathbabe.org/2024/02/04/why-people-hate-wegovy/
Tldr: it makes it harder to shame fat people.
Harder to shame rich fat people.
Harder to get meds to poor fat people with diabetes, prolly, too.
Why is this surprising or even controversial? Weight Watchers bought Sequence whose whole purpose was to fast track access to Wegovy. Seems a little ridiculous to point towards that as the reason for the stock falling. Most likely it was simply because she left the board.
Weird framing in the headline. Like taking weight loss drugs is some kind of scandal?
Taking weight loss drugs is not a scandal, taking weight loss drugs while being on the board of a commercial diet program is.
https://www.weightwatchers.com/us/clinic/weight-loss-medication
A commercial diet program that sells drugs tho?
Only after they themselves admitted that nobody in this country has the self-control to eat a balanced diet, which used to be their main product, as odd as that sounds.
Diet programs that you pay for are designed to cause you to fail on your own.
It’s not that no one can eat a balanced diet, it’s that there’s a huge financial incentive to them to keep you from learning to fend for yourself.
Weight loss isn’t easy. You can shoot off the mechanics of just eating less and sure, anyone who eats less than they normally do will lose weight. If it were actually that simple no one would ever struggle. There are underlying emotional issues, motivation issues, cravings, fear, habits, social pressures, and any number of unnamed complications that keep people fat. A super restrictive prescribed diet is probably what’s in order but you can’t just pull the trigger on that and expect it to stick. Whatever program that happens to be. All of this leads to cycles of trying and failing to lose weight. Sometimes you take a few pounds of, sometimes you take a lot of pounds off, then you stop and gain it all back.
Weight watchers, and programs like it, prey on that cycle of failure. The weight loss drugs are only another symptom of that
Weight Watchers really wasn’t. It was an all in and group related program that existed since, like, the 50s. It was an invested program that was really honestly designed for you to succeed.
Things had probably changed since the late 90s and early odds, however. But the entire program was really designed to get people on a program of eating low calorie meals and to get people into the habit of eating low calorie meals on the long-term. It was probably the one, stand out program, that honestly worked Well for the people who actually stuck to the program.
That was the point of Weight Watchers. It was designed to train people to do the one thing that actually worked to lose weight: counter calories, and eat, reasonably sized and reasonably portioned meals. Even after you stopped buying the Weight Watchers branded meals, you would know to counter calories, and only eat as much as you should eat for each meal. As many calories, and as reasonably sized portions. It trained people to eat as much as they should eat. That’s why it was so successful for over half a century.
It’s too bad that, nowadays, it’s a bunch of bullshit like anything else. But, for over 60 years, it actually was a real thing that worked for a great many people.
Dictated by Siri, but not Redd
I don’t know why they didn’t branch out into exercise equipment and videos. Those were very popular in the 80s and 90s. They really should have.
Honestly if you want to lose weight you need to “change your lifestyle”. Not in a weird kooky cult way, just buy some jogging shoes (with insoles) and an outfit that looks good. Like spend $250 on your exercise outfit. You will want to wear it and eventually go for a walk.
I can’t overemphasize the insoles. Skinny people never tell you to get them, probably because the regular shoe insoles work fine for them. Fat people need special sports foam insoles. Your knees and ankles will feel amazing.
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But why?
‘I’ve got to do this on my own,’" she said last September. “Because if I take the drug, that’s the easy way out.”
Apparently there’s a perception that it matters… You’ll see it with smoking cessation too. Gotta do shit the absolute hardest way possible or you’re somehow “cheating”…
Wouldn’t want people to have taken the easy way to not fucking dying :/
As someone else pointed out — Weight Watchers shifted its focus to weight loss drugs. Not sure what the scandal is here. Oprah is a weight watchers spokesperson, weight watchers hooks you up with weight loss drugs, Oprah loses weight on said drugs proving it works. ???
Oprah is the Joe Rogan of her generation.
Thanks for succinctly and precisely explaining why I really dislike her.
I’ve tried to explain why to my wife, but I feel like I’ve always missed the mark and she has implied it’s probably a mixture of misogyny and/or racism. Which still may be true I don’t really know. However, next time it comes up, I’ll point out that I dislike her for the same reason I dislike rogan.
You really didn’t need to admit that you probably don’t like her because she’s a black woman. If you don’t say this to your wife when adding the joe rogan bit, then you’re being dishonest.
Edit: Look. OP said that. It’s right there in the comment. I’m not making it up. Oprah sucks? Sure. She’s like Joe Rogan? Okay. My wife said my comments are sexist and racist, and it may be true… dude. That’s all I pointed out. Sorry, but that’s not okay. I’m fine with the downvotes, though I’ll make sure to better portray my point next time.
One of the best ways to come to the conclusion that you need to better yourself in some areas is to be open to the idea you might have a bias.
But acknowledging you might have a bias does not mean it’s there and you’re OK with it
And not liking someone who is part of a marginalized group does not always mean a bias either.
You really didn’t need to admit that you probably don’t like her because she’s a black woman.
What do you mean? I don’t believe this to be the case, I believe I don’t like her for the same reason I don’t like rogan, and the last I checked he isn’t a black woman. Recognizing that I may have internalized biases that fall in a blind spot of mine is not an admission of anything nor is it something anyone should be shitting on.
But you did say “my wife thinks my comments have a mix of racism and misogyny, which is still maybe true.” How does that paint a good picture in any way?
But I stand corrected and I admit I had a knee-jerk reaction.
How does that paint a good picture in any way?
I wasn’t trying to paint a good picture, I was being honest.
Then be honest with yourself for once.
You say:
I don’t believe this to be the case,
How do you reconcile that with “maybe I’m being racist and misogynistic”?
I am being honest with myself: I may have internalized biases that I’m not consciously aware of. There’s nothing to reconcile here as these two statements are not mutually exclusive or even contradictory in any way.
I am so looking forward to a Lemmy user who is black and a woman to tell you that Oprah sucks. Whoever you are, please do us that favor. And if there aren’t any black women on Lemmy… well, there should be anyway.
Which is fine. I probably gave it more emphasis on the side point that the main point. But OP did admit that his wife pointed out that his comments have a misogyny and racist tone, and OP said that maybe that’s true. That’s it.
“Oprah sucks because she’s like Joe Rogan”
Ok.
“And if someone thinks it’s racist and sexist, it maaaaaay be true.”
Not ok.
Two things.
wife pointed out that his comments have a misogyny and racist tone
First you’re putting words in my mouth. She never said anything about my tone making her believe that, but that my dislike might be misogynistic and/or racist. I believe this is because I wasn’t explaining my position well, so without a good reason, it opened the door for that possibility.
Second,
“And if someone thinks it’s racist and sexist, it maaaaaay be true.”
Not ok.
It’s a good thing that I’m open to the possibility that I’m biased. This is not something to shit on. I don’t get why this is such a bad thing. Bring open to being wrong is how you grow.
Understood, and you clarified in another comment.
Your original comment was not clear enough, at least not to me, but now that I have the full context, I see that you’re not some racist/sexist asshole. But of course, it was wrong of me to accuse you of that in the first place without asking you to clarify. I’ll do that from now on.
My man. Good on you. We can all learn from this admission.
Never forget that Oprah platformed grifters like Dr. Oz and Dr. Phil
A lot of rapists too.
I always knew she was full of it, "dr"Phil proved it, dr.oz sealed it down.
I loathe this woman…evil all around
