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    I feel like GNOME developers need to drop what they’re doing immediately and focus on making fractional scaling usable. Hi-DPI scaling is everywhere nowadays from TVs to laptop monitors, not supporting it properly is a massive problem for all affected users.

    I’d switch to Linux pretty quickly if they made using my damn laptop a usable experience without dealing with blurry apps or having to use a microscope to read text.

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        I really like the GNOME app ecosystem, I like KDE too but I’m not sure I’d make it my default desktop environment.

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          Saying that but KDE have been having fantastic 1:1 trackpad for a looong time now. And most are usable. What is bad for you? Does gnomes let you configure with gesture for which?

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            Gnome’s trackpad gestures are just something else. I don’t know what wizardry they’ve done.

            Those in Plasma and Windows are just terrible in comparison tbh. Gnome’s are better than Apple’s, even.

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            But the result of those gestures(the overview) is not as useful as the overview in gnome and you have to swipe up to go to the overview and swipe up(not down for some unfanthomnable reason) again to leave the overview. A new gesture system has been added to plasma 6 which looks promising. The dev who made it said he has taken a lot of inspiration from gnome.

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            Basically a good 1:1 , nice overview (three fingers up, three fingers down stop), and yes you can configure in gnome (through extension I know…) the three and four fingers gestures. Also, they are as smooth as a Macbook in my experience.

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      This is exactly what this change is about. Most blurry apps are blurry because they don’t support Wayland (yet/by default) and are running using XWayland.

      The only Wayland native software where I had problems with fractional scaling is Qt WebEngine which doesn’t handle scaling correctly.

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      Yeah also no idea why XWayland is a problem, in general their fractional scaling is hidden, and when enabling it everything is blurry.

      KDE works really well, for a long time, for Wayland and XWayland.

      Meanwhile Windows 11… idk.

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      Fractional scaling has been perfectly functional on Gnome’s Wayland implementation for some time already.

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          That’s a problem with XWayland, not Wayland. Forcing electron apps to run using the latter generally fixes the problem.

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      It is. But every week I see they’ve been doing work on it.

      Apparently there’s been an issue in which exiting some fullscreen programs causes the cursor framerate to come out of sync with the content on the display, causing cursor flicker.

      I think Plasma also had this issue, but pushed the feature anyway then ironed out the kinks while it was in production. Now it works pretty well.

      Gnome, sometimes frustratingly, doesn’t really release things until they think they’re perfect and as bug-free as possible.

      And I get it, and agree, it’s led to Gnome being ridiculously polished and about as bug-free as an up-to-date DE can get.

      But sometimes I’m just like damn Gnome this must be slowing down your development

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        Plasma never had this issue in any release, VRR has worked exactly the same since it was introduced until Plasma 6 (where there’s some improvements for the “always” mode)

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      Tbh I always disable VRR because I find the flicker in games and full screen video way too distracting. At first I thought it was my previous VA monitor but the exact same thing happens on my OLED.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    A merge request was opened this week for plumbing fractional scaling support for XWayland clients running on the GNOME Mutter compositor.

    Jonas Dreßler opened a merge request with a patch from Jonas Ådah that has been working on the functionality for allowing scaling-aware XWayland clients to scale themselves using the scale-monitor-framebuffers functionality.

    The patch explains: "When monitor framebuffers are scaled, this special cases Xwayland and sends output regions in a way that Xwayland think everything is N times as large as the logical region, where N is the ceil of the max monitor scale.

    Dreßler noted in the merge request that the coordinate space conversion has been working out well.

    Being past the feature freeze for GNOME 46, short of it being unexpectedly allowed as a late addition, it won’t be wrapped up until GNOME 47 in September.

    Similarly, also missing the feature freeze is the GNOME Variable Refresh Rate (VRR) functionality.


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