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    • "whose role will be to ensure that the “political, regulatory and fiscal frameworks” in the Nordics “support Tesla’s mission.”

    LOL. Lets hire 1 person to change the politics in 4 countries to support a foreign private company…

    (Also… … The primary point in all the nordic models is that politics shouldn’t interfere in the labour market.)

    It’s ridiculously amusing to see the world’s richest man attempting to throw money at a problem that can’t be solved with money. I like it a lot.

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        The workers don’t want money. They want a collective agreement.

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          Ok honestly the article doesn’t speak of the demands or offers. But anyway, what kind of agreement? That doesn’t really say anything otherwise. I did assume it was a monetary issue since it almost always boils down to more money even when you speak of benefits. More vacation, more sick days, more insurances, more hours, less hours, it all means money in the end.

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              Thanks for that link it’s very enlightening. But isn’t that just another way of legislating how work contracts are negotiated? In the end what is the issue that prevents the unions to reach a collective agreement with Tesla? I might not have been clear in my first post but that’s more specifically what I meant. There must be some disagreement in the remuneration of workers isn’t it?

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                The difference in remuneration in this case is only some holidays and health insurance. Not much in monetary value. That’s not the problem.

                A collective agreement also gives employees more rights which can be difficult to convert to a fixed price. Rights to negotiate. Rights to know the schedule in advance. Rights to take time off for education. Rights to take days off when you have sick children. Things like paid sick days, maternity and parental leave are also not fully covered by the law alone but requires a collective agreement to function properly.

                The only issue preventing the union from reaching an agreement with Tesla is that the CEO of Tesla does not want to sign a collective agreement. I don’t think he even understands what it is.

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      I genuinely don’t understand what Musk considers his leverage here.

      It seems like he has… none?

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    Sign the collective agreement!

    I’d like my millions in cash, please.

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      They did not and it is fucking hilarious. One instance is their spokesperson admits to a jounalist they have no clue at all what is legal and what is not when it comes to getting scabs. Which they 100% tried to get. “But we are only getting swedish scabs, not foreign scabs! Oh, not allowed? Really? Ehhhh…”. Then a letter gets leaked by one of Teslas lobbyists trying to suck up to the minister of labour market (thats a literal translation, not sure what its called in english), and its all like “I dare wish for a short audience with you sire”, basically. Cringe stuff. The minister of labour markets is the party leader of the liberal party, and has the backbone of a bacteria, celebrates working with the far right now because that gives him a minister post. Weakest liberal in the world, and he fucking ignores the letter. Hahahha

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        It’s perfectly legal to hire scabs in Sweden BTW. Frowned upon, but legal.

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      I mean Twitter currently only has one site reliability engineer so being prepared is clearly not a priority for Musk.

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        I very badly want this to be true, but I simply cannot imagine it. I think my company might have more SREs than Twitter has employees, but I cannot see how they could do global ops like that. Or even just California ops.

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          If this sounds familiar, it’s because something similar happened in March, taking down links and images across timelines for around an hour. Twitter blamed that on an “internal change that had some unintended consequences” before Platformer reported the bug occurred because of a mistake by the site’s single remaining site reliability engineer, who was operating solo after Musk instituted massive layoffs.

          https://www.theverge.com/2023/12/13/24000170/x-outage-link-error-message-broken

          It was true in March at least.

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    It boggles my mind how this fucking loser ever got to where he is now.

    It’s a damn shame that kid didn’t push him just a little harder down those stairs.

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      … how this fucking loser ever got to where he is now.

      Starting life as the billionaire heir to a lucrative gem mine built on slave labor will let you stay rich no matter how much you fuck up.

      He invested a lot of money into an electric car company. Anyone could tell the wind was blowing towards electric cars.

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        Anyone could tell the wind was blowing towards electric cars.

        Not to defend Musk but that is simply not true. Everyone was saying electric cars will never work. Just 6 years ago the Volkswagen CEO made fun of Tesla and now they are still playing the catch up game.

        https://youtu.be/wSklSKRkIpk (english subtitles available)

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          So what? Diess was optimistic but had to also drag German labor along, and that market has rights US union could only dream of.

          But he worked cooperatively with them, even through a worldwide pandemic. They’re still waiting for parts.

          We’re far beyond that pandemic and Elon is doing whatever his highness wants, when he wants it. Surprise, surprise - it doesn’t get him anywhere outside of Republican-controlled territories, and he’s having a hissy fit on X.

          I, meanwhile, munch popcorn and enjoy driving the VW ID.3 I bought in place of the Model 3 order I cancelled. Fuck Musk - he gets none of my money, and clearly nothing from Norway either.

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      People with money tend to trust people with money because their ego tells them how smart they are because of their own success, and they project that onto others.

      Elon is also a brilliant con man, exactly like Donald Trump. They’re so close, it’s uncanny. Elon apparently got $13B in loans from major banks by telling them that his businesses never lose money.

      We will have to see if reality is finally catching up with them.

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      Yet somehow manages to be even more cringe than Squall, which is quite the achievement.

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    What does a WWE like standoff even mean. Is Roman Reigns going to run in with a steel chair?